Continuing our horror parody/comedy Halloween season, we move from slasher films to zombies as we take a look at The Dead Don’t Die from 2019. This was a particular divisive movie when it released, pairing the sardonic sensibilities of a Wes Anderson movie with the more traditional undead tropes. We talk about how well this works out, if the theme is too heavy-handed, and a whole lot more in this appreciation of Bill Murray and Adam Driver. We’re also drinking Wicked Grove (Aldi) Black Cherry Imperial Hard Cider!
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10:00-20:00 Beer talk
20:00-end The Dead Don’t Die
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0:04
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0:30
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0:54
Hello, welcome back to the Blood of Micron podcast.
I’m Ryan from closeplatation.com and I’m joined with my Co host Martin.
How’s it going?
There are ghouls among us today, but I’ll say that.
Some will say maybe the the.
1:09
Day don’t die.
Well, there you go, the title has just been spoken.
Any more than you all right?
You know Sturgill Simpson.
I know.
Sorry.
What about Travis?
1:26
Randall, don’t quit your day, Jeff.
You’re more like Mr. Quinn.
I wish.
Yeah, he’s a better good than me.
Yeah, right.
No, we are.
We are talking today.
1:42
So we’re still knee deep, neck deep, whatever you want to call it in our Halloween.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Halloween.
Yeah.
And we are we were trying to do, we want to do something different this time, right?
Because last the last two episodes we’ve done have kind of been takes on the slasher format.
2:01
And there’s a lot of horror parodies that have, you know, delved into the slasher format because it is one of the more popular genres, especially for American audiences, kind of easy to do.
I guess another one that you would expect to be a pretty big deal would be paranormal type, you know, parodies.
2:24
But alas, I don’t know.
There’s not too many.
But anyway, we’re going to do a different type of movie and we’re doing a zombie movie, a zombie parody.
There’s a couple zombie parody movies out there.
You know, we’ve done the probably the one that’s the biggest one that you would think of, right?
2:43
Shaun of the Dead.
So that one was out.
I thought you’re going to say Island of the Dead.
No, we haven’t done that one.
We haven’t done Island of the Dead or Diary of the Dead or any of those, but.
God every I to be I I honestly can’t wait to do diary one of these days is going to be even though it’s not even the worst one, it’s just.
3:07
That is the one that I have not seen as well.
I’ve never never seen Diary.
Never.
Yeah, but but we, we, we saw survival though.
We did, yes.
Unfortunately, yeah.
But zombie movies, Well, so.
3:22
So I guess I will preface by saying that to be to be quite honest with you, I’m sick to death of zombie movies.
How?
Can how can you be?
How can I be?
Yes, because I think this would be a proper feeling.
Because I had the same feeling too, like a decade ago when we’ve reached our zenith of like zombie culture.
3:45
Because from the mid 2000s up to the mid twenty 10s, we were just inundated, absolutely inundated with zombie shit from varying ranges of good to bad.
You know, you had Land of the Dead, great movie.
4:04
You had Dawn of the dead remake.
Well, listen to that review that we did long, long time ago.
You know, the left 4 dead games, Dead Rising, Resident Evil, like like it just like island of what the hell was it Dead Island.
4:21
So like there’s just if this was like 2015, I would understand this sentiment.
Oh, I forgot, sorry.
The Walking Dead, the most mediocre, the most mediocre television show.
Well, I try because I and I try to take that out of my memory even though the original on a Telltale Walking Dead game amazing sells this day so.
4:46
Oh yeah, you’ve tried, you.
And you’ve tried multiple times to break into The Walking Dead.
You, you, you watched it occasionally, just like here and there.
And I always ask you why?
Why are you doing that to yourself?
Well that was like 2 years ago when I sat down.
5:01
Tried rewatching season 1?
Yeah, you were kind of like.
And by the time, man, by the time I was done, I was like, this is just.
And I mean.
Because again, because.
Because again, I said, I don’t know about that, but it’s mainly because like with like stuff like that, when it comes to zombie, you know, stuff, it really takes me out when like, especially now when zombie culture’s a thing for people to be like, I can’t do it.
5:34
Oh, they’re my brother.
And it’s like, do zombies none exist in this world?
What do you mean?
Like, you know, right, right.
Like, ’cause that’s literally half The Walking Dead is like, I got to kill that person.
5:49
Well, he’s my fourth cousin.
What’s Carol got to do today?
Keep on going, you know.
So I would say, you know, part of that fatigue for me is definitely The Walking Dead because I followed it throughout and then all of its spin offs.
6:06
But also, I guess I would be to be more specific and not just naming or I guess less specific, however you want to see it, not just naming zombies.
I am are kind of sick to death of the post a lot apocalyptic element within films and that doesn’t necessarily mean zombies.
6:26
It can mean zombies, but it doesn’t necessarily have to mean zombies.
But because like, you know, I would say a good 40% of shows and movies that are coming out have some sort of post apocalyptic element these days, or even video games to video games, another prime example.
6:48
It is the post apocalyptic element.
And it gets especially when they follow the same trajectory, the same path of or the same themes.
It, it it’s just like, how many more times do we need to to beat this dead horse about the post apocalypse?
7:03
And you know, the, the way that the philosophical viewpoints of how humanity will treat each other and things like that, I, I, I just, there’s not much more left to say.
So to be fair to zombies, it’s not just zombies, it’s post apocalypse in general, But but the film that we’re talking about today, The Dead don’t Die 2019 is not really a film that it, it doesn’t necessarily fall into that element because it’s not really post apocalyptic.
7:42
It’s in, in the scope of the apocalypse.
It’s happening.
And so it’s kind of the, the, the impetus of the apocalypse.
So we’re, we’re good on that part of it.
And then the zombie part is, you know, kind of the parody itself too, because it’s it’s kind of a movie that doesn’t take itself necessarily very seriously.
8:06
It’s metacritical, often, quite literally, sometimes breaking the 4th wall.
And so I think that like for me, going into this movie, I wasn’t super excited because again, I didn’t, I didn’t see this movie back in 2019 when it released.
8:22
I wasn’t super excited about going into a zombie movie, but I came out of it feeling way better about a zombie movie.
I don’t know if that’s the same for you, but for me, I was pleasantly surprised by this one.
Go ahead.
So yeah, I mean, like I don’t like like I don’t have stigmatism right now to like zombie or post apocalyptic stuff because I think it’s, you know, again, things have shifted so much into, you know, superheroes and comics that I think, you know, it’s still still pretty fresh.
9:03
And like I said, we’re like, I feel like we’re very far away enough from like, you know, every year there being three different like apocalyptic zombie or whatever film, like, you know, cramming it, like I’m being exaggerated here, but like cramming it And then the same year, like Daisy, I am legended, like, you know, you know, 2012, you know, whatever the hell.
9:36
So so I was interested in seeing plus the main reason, and by the way, this wasn’t even originally on the schedule.
I had to talk Ryan into it.
Main reason I wanted to see this movie is 1.
We’re both Bill Murray stands here.
9:53
We love us some good Bill Murray films into also love Am Driver.
How can you download VAM Driver?
True.
I mean, granted those Star Wars movies.
Are awful.
I knew you were going to say that.
But Kylo Ren’s great.
10:09
Like, he’s great, you know?
But you know, so I mean, it’s just a cavalcade of like when you look at the people who are in this film, like, oh man, like this, there’s a shit ton of people in here for the ensemble cast, so.
It’s true.
10:25
It’s true.
And also theme song sung by Sturgill Simpson, so you know.
Yes, and I will say that I, I, you know, there is a trend sometimes of Martin picking movies that I don’t appreciate where it forces me to listen to to songs that he enjoys and and likes and they just happen to be in the movie as well.
10:47
That happened with something like Easy Rider as well, where I, you know, we did Easy Rider.
I was forced, I was forced into it to watch it and I was forced into listening to that, to that drivel and.
Did you hold on?
Hold on, Did you listen to the soundtrack or did you listen to the The Birds album?
11:05
Easier about it.
Easier.
No, just the soundtrack.
OK, because if you listen to the Birds album, you know, Well, it’s the same thing too, though.
I mean, like, oh, I got to listen to fucking Jerry Reed.
Well, you know what?
Everyone loves Smokey and the Bandit.
There you go.
What was that song?
11:21
So, you know, are those the three?
Are those like the three films?
Like what else have I suggested to you?
I think those are the three.
Yeah.
Smokey and the Bandit, Easy Rider, and now the Dead Don’t Die where I had to listen to Sturgill Simpson song like 8 or 9 times in the movie.
Would you have preferred it if it was Selena Gomez?
11:41
Probably Jesus.
Probably, to be fair.
Probably.
But anyway, so again, the dead don’t die.
I was surprised as it was talking to you about this earlier.
11:56
I was surprised to see that it was released in 2019.
It’s like 6 years ago.
Feels like yesterday.
It does.
It was.
Yeah.
It does feel like yesterday, I feel like.
And again, I missed out on this movie.
I did.
I remember it coming out very clearly.
12:13
I remember people talking about it and saying, oh, yeah, it’s a, you know, it’s a new kind of zombie comedy from, you know, from Jim Jarmusch and stars Bill Murray.
I definitely remember that happening and I feel like it was just the other day, but it was six years ago.
12:30
But I definitely the only thing I really knew about this movie besides those two things.
Even not so much the cast because the cast like you said is very stacked.
I didn’t even really realize that.
But I did hear a lot of people just saying that they did not enjoy The Dead Don’t Die.
12:47
It had some critical success, I believe, but for the most part, like viewer based commentary, I heard people didn’t like it and that’s kind of all I knew about this movie.
Besides, you know, the the main crux of it being a zombie film and you’ve never seen it, right?
13:05
You you’ve heard.
About it, No, no, I’ve heard of it because it’s been a constant fixture on Netflix since it came out.
So.
And I guess the other thing we should point out too is that we don’t have any experience with Jim Jarmusch either.
Never seen a movie by him even though he is fairly prolific.
13:26
Just never had the pleasure of experiencing one of his movies.
It’s never gone out of my way.
I think, as you said, you you kind of reminds you of like a David Lynch character, right?
Wait, it looks.
It looks like smashing of David Lynch.
13:43
Mark mothers boy.
And why am I drawing a blank on us?
God damn, Sam.
Lake, yeah, I can see see all of those kind of smashed together for sure, For sure.
All right, anything else for the intro before we we take a break here and talk about the stuff that we got on the show?
14:03
Yeah, Ryan finally, Speaking of Sam Lake finally beat Alan Lake too.
So give him a give him a round applause for beating the greatest game of all time.
It took me a while, but I got there.
Yeah, you did.
And Platinum, that’s the only way to go.
14:23
That’s right.
All right, so for beers on the show today, we have a special.
Yeah, not a beer, not a beer, but we do this from time to time, especially during the the Halloween season.
We’re in Apple country.
That’s right.
14:39
Bitches love nothing more than picking apples on the follow up in the Upstate.
You know, Anne Arundac region.
That’s right.
And it like especially too like from the from the downstate region of New York City area.
They also love coming on up here to upstate pick those apples.
14:58
Did you ever see the the SNL skit about?
That I was thinking about that.
That’s when I was saying.
Thinking.
About that, that visually in your head, you know, flannel the big, you know, like sombrero.
It is really funny too, to think about because actually I was just, we were just at the apple orchard the other day and you know, we were there and there was people in there like long leggings and flannel and sweatshirts and it’s fucking 78° there, you know, balmy September day.
15:30
Because UPS in upstate New York, people forget about this in September.
It’s still fucking hot.
It’s still basically summer season, or I mean, it is.
It is truly, literally summer, right?
Especially say, especially when there’s a global warming going on.
Absolutely.
15:46
I was saying, you know, you’re absolutely right.
Like the only time it’s been cold is is at night when but like you know, 50° out our fucking noon have been 75.
Degrees, so you got to love the commercials where you see people in like their heavy flannels and you know, downy sweaters and things like that.
16:05
Going out on the Apple St. you’re going to be dying, man, you’re going to you’re going to be having heat.
What don’t you there?
You don’t have your your heaviest Carhartt or LL beating on you’re you’re going to freeze up there.
Absolutely.
If you’re in upstate New York and you’re if you’re dressed in to go out for apple picking, dress, dress for the warmth because.
16:25
Joggers.
Yeah exactly.
I was in shorts and T-shirts still sweating so but anyway I digress.
So, but for the, for the show today, I, I grabbed a hard cider because again, we don’t do ciders that often.
16:41
I have a very limited window of time where I actually want to drink a hard cider.
To be, to be honest with you, you know, ’cause if it was like an option between a beer or a cider, I’m almost always taking the beer.
Unless it was that weird green apple beer for Magic Cat that I had that one year, then oh.
16:59
God.
That was like my one and only drain pour.
Like like, no, that’s not the apple.
Well, that’s not true.
The woodchuck pumpkin.
That’s well, yeah, but that’s not not typically a beer.
It was the.
Same, I know, but that’s also a drain.
A total drain.
Port, that’s true.
It’s a drain port.
17:14
But yeah, so I don’t, I don’t have very much time where I am a cider drinker.
So the fall is it that is the no, that is the time frame to get it in.
So I decided it was, you know, high time for us to have a cider on here because we’ve, you know, we’ve had a couple of Oktoberfest and stuff on here recently.
17:33
So I was actually happened to be in ALDI and I saw, oh, wow, ALDI has some hard ciders that they, you know, have available and I’ve never had any of their hard ciders.
And again, I think we’ve done one other ALDI beer on maybe 2, can’t remember.
I think one, it was this like the lime cerveza that we had on here before that ALDI makes and we actually quite enjoyed it.
17:53
And I’ve had a couple other ALDI beers and I think they do a pretty good job.
So I decided that I was going to go with Wicked Grove, which is Aldi’s cider brand.
It’s kind of like an Angry Orchard style knock off with a cheeky looking apple on it.
18:09
And it’s their Imperial black cherry hard cider, which clocks in at 8%.
Again, I’ve never had any of the Wicked Grove line.
I think they have like a, just a really standard hard cider as well that they, they market.
18:27
I haven’t had it, but I decided, you know what, let’s go with the Imperial.
Let’s really kick things up a notch and see how it goes, you know?
So we got the black cherry.
I’ll let you go first.
What do you think about the black cherry?
First off, I don’t think this is hard cider.
18:43
Now that I’m looking at the can, you’ll have to look at the package and affirm.
For me, there’s no calorie count or anything on here, which is for hard cider due to its classification, has to have compared to beer because there’s differences.
19:01
So this guy that makes me think that maybe this is a malt beverage technically.
I don’t know, Pretty pretty pretty distinctly says hard cider on it.
I understand that, but at 8%?
It’s naturally gluten free as well, so there’s no way it has malt in it.
19:17
No way.
You’ll have to check, you’ll have to check the six pack because if there’s no calorie, there has to be like like nutrition fact on it.
You have the box actually.
Just wait, I do.
Yeah, you have the box.
I left it at your house.
Are you sure?
Yep.
19:33
I don’t think so.
So anyway, it doesn’t, It doesn’t.
But besides the point, like you though, I do agree and we’ve talked about it because we do at least one cider during the Halloween season because one, we have a abundance of darn good hard, you know, hard cider producers up here in upstate like in 1911 and you know, so on so forth.
19:59
So in like U2, I also only really want one during the like the heart of October.
So for hard cider that, you know, black cherry, it’s not bad at all.
20:17
You definitely get the imperial taste because it’s definitely got more of a.
High octane, you know, heat to it.
The black cherry I would say is very mild, doesn’t like really stick out that much at all or give a overly medicinal taste.
20:34
If you’re one that you know, especially when it comes to like artificial black cherry, get that robitussinine, you know, medicinal cough syrup taste not really there.
In fact, I would say the black cherry is incredibly muted to the point where it just tastes like a 8% hard cider.
20:54
But as a hard cider, it’s not bad at all.
It’s crisp, got a nice easy mouthfeel goes down smooth taste, you know, kind of a you know, got a little hint of like champagne E Nos to it.
Not much, but it’s it’s definitely not bad at all.
21:10
And for what you get at ALDI for the price, it’s out.
If you like that kind of, you know, you want your heart cider to have a little bit more kick like Red’s Wicked apple.
Give it a go at your local ALDI if you have one.
21:27
That is true too, right?
That that’s the thing too.
Red’s wicked apple or whatever Red’s wicked.
It’s I’d say it still exists, but God I haven’t seen them in like 15 years.
Yeah.
I mean, again, that’s kind of like what they’re going for.
This is like this, this knock off is like a combination of all those things put together.
21:45
I think I just like the cheeky apple on it.
That’s like a, you know, again, like a knock off of the angry orchard like mad tree that they’ve got on there.
I just think it’s funny.
But anyways, yes, I think this wicked Grove is actually pretty good.
22:02
Like you said, I don’t get a huge amount of black cherry.
I think that’s kind of true of a lot of the, I think I’ve had a couple other black cherry style ciders as well.
And I feel like this, the black cherry just adds maybe like a little bit more tartness to the overall flavour of the cider.
22:20
It doesn’t necessarily give like a very distinctive black cherry feel, which again is kind of a good thing too, because you don’t want the black cherry to be overpowering and you don’t want it to taste like a black cherry malt beverage or something instead of a cider.
22:36
So you do still want the taste of apple there.
And I think it’s a good thing that it doesn’t have that medicinal taste of a black cherry because that can go very wrong.
Black cherry can can really be concerning if it has too much of that medicinal flavour to it.
This does not have that.
22:52
But it’s not a huge black cherry kick to it.
The 8% is not bad.
It’s not, I don’t think it’s like overpowering.
It doesn’t taste extremely alcoholic.
I think they’re going, it’s going down rather smoothly.
And again, I think that this has a nice balance between the kind of the sweetness and dryness of an apple cider.
23:16
It’s not too sweet, but it is on the sweeter side.
It does, I think I agree with Martin’s assessment that it has like a somewhat Champagne Y flavour to it, but not necessarily a full champagne flavour.
So all of that said, I think this is really good for the price point.
23:33
You would do worse than picking up an ALDI Wicked Grove Imperial Black Cherry Cider, so check it out.
If you have an ALDI near you, check.
It out See.
All right, so let’s get into the Dead Don’t Die, which is repeated to us, you know, basically ad infinitum in this film.
23:58
Don’t Die.
But again, one of the things about this movie that I think, you know, we’ll talk about right off the bat is the fact that as a parody film, tank kind of, you know, for the most part, if you were just watching it, not really recognizing some of the things kind of takes itself seriously.
24:16
But it has a very wry, sardonic humor to it that is emphasized by, for one, Bill Murray being there as sort of like the straight laced guy.
And then two, Adam Driver kind of being Adam Driver in a sort of Noah Baumbach movie, right?
24:39
Like, ’cause that’s kind of what the dead don’t die.
It boils down to is it’s, for me at least, it is a sort of Noah Baumbachian, Wes Anderson ask horror film without the symmetry.
That’s, you know, when I was watching this film for the first time and kind of, you know, 45 minutes in or so, I was like, you know, it’s kind of what this reminds me of.
25:05
I don’t know if you got the same thing, but the, the way that the humor is written, which is very sort of understated and kind of focused on dialogue specifically, I feel like it, it kind of hits those notes.
25:23
And that’s kind of what made me really enjoy the film, especially, you know, watching it from the beginning because again, this movie, I, I timed it.
It takes like 30 minutes to actually get a zombie.
In the show, I see, I did the same thing too.
Yeah, but it’s just just under 30 minutes.
25:40
Yeah, it is like 29 minutes where the first time you actually even see.
And I I think even then it’s just like a puff of a sheet, right?
Like, it’s just like breath and a sheet under a sheet is like the zombie part.
It takes a while to get to the zombies.
25:56
And so for the longest time, you’re kind of just there along on the ride with Adam Driver and Bill Murray as investigating certain things that are going on in the world.
And and one of those things is happens to just be like Tom Waits, who’s just traipsing around in the woods like Bigfoot, just, you know, shooting off guns.
26:19
Fuck you in the in the woods.
And so I think like, you know, again, it’s kind of understandable that certain people would come into the dead don’t die and not really dig this movie that much.
26:35
Because if they’re looking for something like Shaun of the Dead or like Zombieland, something that is very much more focused on the zombies in the aspect of zombie apocalypse, they might find this a little bit lacking.
26:51
But for people who are really enjoy the more sardonic metacritical humor, I think that this is a film for them, especially considering that it does have like a nice, you know, zombie bent to it along with the comedy.
27:09
Do you agree with that?
Do you?
Do you, do you find the same thing I do?
No, I definitely think it’s.
I do think the film is hilarious.
I do think it’s got really smart and dry humour about it.
27:25
And again, your mileage is totally going to vary.
If you’d like that Wes Anderson dry observing style of humour and like the the role that I would compare this most to built.
27:40
And, you know, I’ve seen a billion Bill Murray films.
The role I would compare this most to is like him in Steve Zizu.
And Steve Zizu very downstate, played very, you know, downstated, just calm, cool, very like, oh, yeah, there’s the same thing that I’m Driver, too.
28:01
Again, there’s stuff going on there.
Yeah.
What’s going on there?
Yeah, there’s stuff.
It’s really, if you’re not into that kind of like humor, you’re not going to find it funny.
But I do think it works really well.
And I think they, Bill Marine and Driver play great.
28:20
I mean, Jesus, yeah, no, I said.
That they play off each.
Other they play off each other really, yeah, yeah, they play off each other really well and like, you know, just give the do get especially because they do break the 4th wall and make it seem like they know like, you know that they know that it’s like a film going on a story.
28:39
It it makes it feel like like, you know, like is this line improvised?
I don’t know, like it, you know?
Yeah, and I think what you said too about playing them, playing off of each other is really important because again, like you said, they’re both of them are kind of playing the understated character.
28:56
There’s not like an over the top person.
And then, you know, Bill Murray is the understated Adam Driver is, I think playing a really great kind of actually like typecast now role for him, you know, especially after his work in like Star Wars, you know, because again, I mentioned Noah Baumbach, but we’ve you know, we’ve covered Adam Driver in marriage story for for one thing also.
29:26
From 2019.
Oh, is it?
I didn’t even realize that.
Wow.
Again.
I know, I know Christ.
I know, like I said.
Well, like, yeah, so again, I guess even even more apropos is the fact that, yeah, it was at the same time, you know, he’s kind of straight off of, you know, both in the same year.
29:46
Very, very similar aesthetics, I think.
And then not only that, but to also White Noise, which is another Noah Baumbach film that Adam Driver was in playing a very similarly understated character as well.
30:04
I think he does a really good job with those types of roles.
And here he I think there’s like this nice camaraderie that happens within the 1st 15 minutes of this ride along that you get in the Dead Don’t Die, where you’re kind of just along for the ride with Bill Murray and Adam Driver.
30:19
And they’re kind of just again, it’s, it almost seems like inane dialogue, really not doing that much.
But at the same time, it’s all very funny, like Riley funny.
They keep commenting on the fact that like, it’s not getting dark and they’re like, that’s weird.
30:35
And then, you know, just kind of back and forth between them that has like this really nice comrade that sucks you in.
And I, I was like into it from the 1st 1015 minutes or so.
And I think if you are not, I don’t think it gets better for you, to be honest with you.
30:53
You like you know what I mean?
I don’t.
I don’t know if that makes sense to you as well.
No, I don’t it it does.
It’s either you’re either going to it’s like I can totally see to use the Noah Baumbach reference if you like in Obviously you would know this too to watch the squid in the whale.
31:12
Yep, you’re either going to think it’s hilarious in this really well written, well performed film with very dry, jabby, witty little lines and remarks.
31:30
Something like The Royal Tenenbaums where you totally like when Bill Murray’s talking to Gwyneth Paltrow about like you’re leaving me and Dudley’s going to the cab, like there’s a dent in that cab.
And then like the the serious conversations go down.
31:47
If you don’t find that funny, that kind of stuff funny, you’re not going to find the dead don’t die to be funny because it’s that same style as you said, sardonics, like the perfect word for it’s very like, you know, poisonous like and how it is.
32:07
So if like you’re not into that level of dry champagne humor, you’re not going to this.
The film won’t be.
For you, yeah.
Because again, I think like that, you know, we talked about the 1st 30 minutes are kind of all set up.
You know, you’ve you in your kind of meeting the characters and that don’t die because though Bill Murray and Adam Driver are the main characters, the, the ones that the film keeps coming back to, you know, overall, they’re not the like the, the, the focus.
32:35
The focus kind of wavers now and then between various different people within the setting.
And like the whole idea is that it’s set in a town called Centreville, which is a culmination basically of every type of person.
And I think like, again, there’s part of the dead don’t die in what Jim Jarmusch, Jim Jarmusch is it’s trying to to indicate here is that every there’s, you know, Centerville is kind of like this area that you can imagine as sort of like the Everyman area.
33:06
And I think he’s trying to put in some characters here that you can see as sort of an everyman character.
And like you could see Bill Murray is like the aged person that could be your everyman or Adam Driver is the person that stands in for a younger person that that you might see yourself in.
33:23
There’s, you know, that we also get, you know, like Steve Buscemi here as sort of the racist dude who still has a daily conversation with a black guy, Danny Glock, you know?
What a.
What a What a terrific redneck Buscemi bags.
33:40
Right.
Like, God bless them.
And it’s fucking cows.
And I would say, and it’s funny and it’s hilarious too because he’s wearing a MAGA hat.
Yeah, but it’s not.
America white again.
It’s just like, like so on the nose.
33:58
So they’re in like, you know, just, yeah, really, really, really, you know, funny.
And like the whole, like, when he’s at the diner and he’s drinking his coffee and he’s checking out and like, what diner do you go to?
Which everyone wants diner.
34:14
It’s like, what diner do you go to?
And they’re like, oh, you want the coffee to go.
And he, you know, no one’s getting your coffee packed to go.
But he’s like, no, it’s too black.
And then Danny Glover shoots him a look and he’s like, I mean, strong.
It’s just too strong, which is funny too, because at the same time, like, Danny Glover must know who he is and stuff because, again, he’s like, you know, and talk to him like, constantly because they’re always at the diner.
34:41
It’s like, it’s like an own wake.
It’s the one place you got to be at.
And, you know, he’s still coming in wearing a Make America White again.
Yeah.
And Danny Glover is just kind of like, oh, you, you know.
Yeah, I mean it kind of just again, it’s like the stand in for any small town or any any area really.
35:02
And I think that’s, you know, that’s kind of the goal of this movie is it sets up a sporadic different people.
You know, we’ve got Selena Gomez in here playing just so you know, like hipster woman at with travelling with her friends.
Some would call her Jezebel.
Jezez is staying with two men in a hotel room.
35:21
What a Jezebel.
Wow.
You know, you get Tilda Swinton here who is playing like the weird Scottish funeral parlour owner, You know, somebody different.
Tom Waits is here playing a hermit.
35:36
And that’s kind of the guy who is the roundabout hero of the whole film.
As he, you know, we routinely check in with him as the world is going to shit with all the zombies and he’s just fine.
He’s out in the wilderness like, oh.
He’s part of the, he’s part of the problem.
35:52
He doesn’t do anything.
He just a loaded rifle and everything and he’s just like, you know.
Nice tasty porcinis.
I love that it’s fucking random mushroom foraging but not.
36:08
Only that though, too.
The fact that it’s Tom fucking waits.
It’s like, you know?
And not only and he also gets, you know, again, Tom Waits got a great, great speaking voice and you know, singing voices well, doesn’t sing in this one because this is this is solely probably contractually obligated.
36:26
Sturgill Simpson town.
There’s Tom Waits cannot have a song on this film.
Sturgill Simpson only.
But you know, I, I like the fact that he does give those voice overs every now and then.
Like these people, you know, mortals.
36:44
Like it’s a noir film, like kind of at.
The end of the film and again, you know, as we’ll talk about the theme itself, you know, he he kind of delivers the theme explicitly, but I do like the fact that we have Tom Waits just kind of in the background troopsing around every now and then.
37:03
But what do you think about like, so the whole setup of the zombie thing, because like eventually it’s like, like we said, it takes about, you know, 29 minutes to really get zombies.
But the, the whole atmosphere of it’s kind of coming together.
It kind of has a night of living dead style atmosphere throughout as it kind of sets in motion this idea that like, oh, things are happening.
37:25
And you know, we, we do get the news broadcast.
They’re pretty explicitly talking about like, well, we’ve been doing some polar fracking and now the Earth is on the wrong axis.
What do you think about the set up for the for the zombies?
It’s a nice little political commentary about, you know, like fracking and global warming, climate change, because again, it’s, this is something that’s been around for like 45 years now and people still don’t think it’s happening.
37:59
A lot of people it’s, you know, sad.
So that’s like a nice little like, you know, a little, you know, to it all.
But the but the whole idea of like, Oh, so the you know, the access got tipped, which is true.
Like that’s one of the first things that you learn when you’re in school and they’re talking about the Earth’s access, like as at this precise access.
38:22
And if you was ever to move like just a little bit, everything would change.
I like, I think that’s a fine, like it’s a fine dandy enough idea for zombies to come because again, usually in these films, especially like, you know, in the world of Romero, it’s you know, when hell runs out of room.
38:43
Yeah, I was going to ask that.
How do you you know?
Because it seems almost like a direct statement to the zombie film that almost intentionally refrains from giving a a specific diagnosis of what happened, right?
Yeah, which is the first night of the living dead, you know, because like with Return, this film does have a lot of like Return homages.
39:07
With Return, it’s like, you know, the gas or whatever the hell that turns them into zombies and stuff.
Like I’m like, I’m fine because they’re they’re giving an explanation.
We just like, you know, to explain why everything’s, you know, getting batshit loopy and crazy.
39:24
But at the same time though, because they’re doing both things with breaking the 4th wall and making it intentional that like this is a movie, would it really matter at the end of the day?
Now it’s just kind of a Mac guffin to, you know, get things moving.
39:43
Yeah, moving forward.
So because again, like we do, we do have a quite a few of like 4th, you know, 4th wall breaking scene and stuff.
So yeah, I, I think it’s fine enough.
Like I don’t have any complaints or anything and.
40:00
I mean, I think it like, it obviously sets in motion this whole idea of environmentalism that runs throughout The Dead Don’t Die.
I mean, it’s it’s kind of hard to see the film in anything but an environmental allegory about, you know, and I think I don’t really think that Jim Jarmusch is trying to hide that fact.
40:19
I mean, it’s pretty explicit throughout.
It’s literally sometimes voiced multiple times of like on the TV shows, and you can hear people in the background talking about the polar fracking.
Like, the polar fracking definitely did not throw the Earth off its axis.
OK?
That is not happening right now.
40:34
And so the idea that I think is even more relevant today is the fact that it comes down to people are telling you not to believe what you are literally seeing, right?
And I think that that’s kind of the idea behind the dead don’t die.
Is that like you can believe whatever you want to believe about if it’s truly happening, but just look around and you can see that it it is.
40:58
And I think like, you know, the nice thing that keeps coming up again and again in the film is the return to Adam Driver basically always saying, wow, this is not going to end well, you know, and it’s kind of pisses Bill Murray off again and again throughout the film is him just literally saying that every time he’s like, what the.
41:18
Why do you why do you think?
Yeah.
Why do you think?
And, and, and I think again, that that it kind of comes back to this whole idea of like, you know, people don’t like to hear that.
People don’t like to hear like, yeah, we’ve learned about this for years and years.
And we just keep saying, yeah, it’s not going to be good.
41:35
Well, I mean, you can apply that to a lot of things again, like with like COVID and vaccines and stuff now people are so skeptical and idiotic about these things.
They’re like, well, you know, I’d rather take my chances.
I I’ve done studying online and it’s like mother fucker, please, like you’re yeah, most of you couldn’t pass a goddamn library skills class for like the 7th grade and you think you going on the Internet and you read 1 fucking like, you know, Babylon the article and all of a sudden you know what the fuck’s going like compared to the people.
42:09
Like we have a friend.
You know, that’s a doctor, right?
If I was that doctor, I would feel pretty insulted if I spent my entire life studying something to like the NTH degree in writing papers and all that, to have someone be like, yeah, well, you know, you say that rock comes from here.
42:30
Yeah.
Well, the Internet, Reddit says it comes from there.
You know, like, like it’s like like like that would end just like, like, you know, like I, I don’t know if for you as somebody who’s more, you know, literary based and stuff when so I don’t know how often you hear people bandying about like random literacy, you know, literacy and book type things where you would get offended like that.
42:55
But for me, like somebody who’s like, you know, spent a lot of time and like my degree and stuff was like, based on like, you know, education, history and stuff.
When I hear some of the stupid and childish things that people say, it’s like, I like, just like, want to kick, like strangle somebody because it’s like you have no understanding what the Hell’s going on, like you.
43:16
One of the interesting things about the Dead don’t Die, though, and the way that it’s presented in the zombie parody is the fact that it doesn’t really find fault in those people who reject the reality, right?
It’s, it’s basically saying whether you see it or not, you’re all in it.
43:37
You know, you’re all affected by it, whether you know, you actually want to believe or not, whether we have our differences of opinion, like an opinion in quotation marks of, of, of what’s going on and whether whatever somebody is telling you is the truth.
43:53
You just look around and you can see that it’s occurring.
And I think that’s the, you know, again, the thing that the dead don’t die, come back, comes back to again and again is the being able to look around and see that like, no, it’s happening whether you want to or even you don’t want to acknowledge it or not, it’s happening.
44:10
Now the one thing I wanted to ask you is, is the dead don’t die too two on the nose about its discussion about like this environmental approach or or how it you know, how it deals with the allegory.
What?
What do you think?
44:28
So it’s a mixed bag with the environmental stuff.
I would say no.
I think it’s nuanced enough to have its own brats, you know and you know, live as it is the very end.
44:44
I don’t know if it’s intentional, if it’s supposed to be a rib play or what, but the whole like zombies, they’re just people trying to consume endlessly capitalism.
It’s like, is this supposed to be like, you know the statement or is it supposed to be taking the piss out of like Dawn of the dead?
45:08
I don’t know, because again, at least with the environmental stuff, you can track it from beginning to end.
That part at the end when Tom Waits is going on like a fucking epilogue tangent is like, are you doing that for the parody’s sake of like, that’s right, balls.
45:32
Orange Julius ruined everything, God damn it.
Or is it like meaningful?
Like, are you, are you trying to say something?
Because if you’re trying to say something and I got bad news for you, you’re too late.
And nothing throughout the rest of the film, really.
Even yes, I’m close to hinting at that.
45:49
And, and that’s the thing that I was getting at too, is, you know, I’m, I’m not saying that I did not enjoy the Dead Don’t Die.
I I think it’s a really, you know, despite the fact that like how I, how I might feel about the, the overall theme and whether it’s too on the nose or if it’s, you know, trying to force its views onto somebody.
46:09
I think that the Dead don’t Die is a very entertaining film regardless.
But how do you feel about the fact that, like, do you think it’s doing enough to differentiate it from like what you said, like a Romero Dawn of the Dead element?
Where, you know, again, in Dawn of the Dead, And we’ve discussed this probably on and off the podcast about Romero’s and overall intentions and whether the actual commentary about, you know, people returning to their capitalistic roots and Dawn of the Dead is intentional or not.
46:42
But do you think that The Dead Don’t Die does enough to kind of put itself out there, You know, because it’s kind of making the same statement, basically, whether, you know, it’s changing up some of those ideas.
It’s saying like, oh, instead of returning to the shops and stuff, they’re returning to, like, things they love, like Mountain Dew and coffee and, you know, snicker action and.
47:05
Yeah, yeah.
But like, is that really saying anything different than what we’ve gotten from zombie movies from time immemorial?
No, I, I, I don’t think so.
It’s just like a bit a pure, very simple like Vandy allegory.
47:22
But I again, like, I don’t think as a overarching theme.
This is one of the problems if like with this film, if you’re trying to like get like a billion different themes and ideas out of it, it don’t because they’re muddles and they don’t.
47:40
It’s not cohesive.
And I wouldn’t be like running to this film for, you know, that kind of sentiment.
What makes the film enjoyable, like, again, is because Bill Murray is fucking hilarious and Driver is fucking hilarious.
47:57
Tilda Sweatin, God bless that poor woman’s soul is like a workhorse of an actress, you know?
And it’s all like, there’s a Bill.
Like, there’s a lot of different ideas here, a lot of different spoofs and stuff.
48:15
But again, for me, the main enjoyment comes from it’s very wry, sardonic, brutal style of humor and storytelling.
So.
Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, I love, I think like again, yeah, that’s where the film really shines ’cause it’s not the gore.
48:34
And as we talked about earlier, you know, this film makes a intentional decision to kind of alleviate on some of the gore.
And instead it kind of goes a different route with like a sort of like ashy smoke that pops out of most of the cadavers, which is.
48:51
I think a horrendous mistake you.
You think it’s a mistake?
I think it’s kind of nice to differentiate itself from different zombie films.
But I think if they leaned further into it, make it like Afro samurai head gets locked off.
49:07
Fucking blood.
Just, you know, just like, you know, you know, foul and like make it ridiculous, make it over the top with I think that whole aspect of the film in like the overall theme is kind of bastardized in the sense like, well, it’s just like ash.
49:27
It’s like dust in the wind.
Like, you know which when we get, I can’t remember who it was saying like ash to ash, the dust to dust.
OK, fine, kind of adds to it, but it comes off as it seems like we’re just going for the quick, cheap CGI route.
Yeah, because it does.
49:43
Because, like, you don’t have to have perfect, you know, practical effects in a film like this, because you can tell it’s made with love, but they ain’t made on a budget.
Sure.
But you can just fucking do it.
Like it’s not that hard to have squibs and shit to have like, you know, that kind of stuff happening so.
50:05
Yeah, I was OK with it.
But I, you know, I, I can see both ways.
But I think that, you know, that’s the the comedy is really where it shines.
And and, but I can see also why a lot of people might not like this movie.
For one thing, you know, again, we talked about the zombie element is kind of sporadic.
50:22
It’s not, you know, throughout the film, there’s not a whole lot of zombie action.
Also, you know, again, the the comedy can be hit or miss for some people.
But I think that the other portion of the film that people might not like is the fact that it does kind of sometimes come off as sort of preachy in the same way that something like the movie like Don’t Look Up kind of came off in that same regard.
50:46
And some people really dislike that movie.
I can see a lot of people not liking the dead don’t die specifically because they would say like it’s quote too political.
You know, it’s it’s it’s it’s too political for him.
I wish that he didn’t bring any politics into it.
But with that said, what do you think about like the the Romero homages in here, like, you know, the car, the naked zombie showing up?
51:12
Being in Philadelphia, I mean, not Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania in.
Pennsylvania.
And no, it’s great.
It’s.
There’s a lot of them.
You know, there’s a lot of like great bet, like it’s a lot of great honouring of Night of the Living Dead and we’re trying to Living dead.
51:30
Those are like the two big ones that stick out.
So I mean like.
And you you do get that like Day of the Dead style zombie hands coming through the the window too.
And the talking and the synth God, you don’t want to the the synth that’s laid throughout this film for ambiance.
51:52
Terrific.
It’s just missing some like Caribbean, like kettle drums, like Day of the.
Dead if you, if you’re not getting Sturgis Simpson, you’re getting that synth, Yeah.
Well, it’s great.
What are what are your what are your favorite like comedic parts of the movie?
So when the poor ladies at the diner get eaten and the Bill Murray and am driver show up, fucking great fuck Bill Murray goes in there and he’s like, Oh my God, it’s like a wild animal attack wild animals.
52:27
And then when?
Fuck it.
And driver comes flying up in those little smart car and they’re like, you don’t want to go in, you don’t want to go in there, goes in there, comes out.
Oh my God, it’s like a wild animal or wild animals attacked them and Bill Murray and Dane Glover and not I’m like, which is funny too about that whole thing too, because when they go in there, it’s just literally the same part of the dead don’t die playing when they go in there because you hear that little mandolin RIP.
52:58
And then when Minerva shows up, she’s like what, what, what, what can’t be that bad, and she goes in there.
Oh my God, was it looks like a wild wild animals attack.
They used to sit in there nodding there.
Fucking lost my shit.
53:15
Like it’s it’s like so like again, like if you don’t kind of find a kind of find that kind of stuff funny, you’re not going to find it funny because it’s like, again, that whole bit reminds me of I’m sure it definitely reminds you of too, because it’s like one of her favorite scenes that we talk about isn’t the royal 10 bombs, but like again, totally is like there’s a dent like cab like so like that’s terrific.
53:40
You know, that’s like, you know, just not chef’s chef kiss great.
And like fucking the fact that Adam Driver this like 6 foot 7 foot tall behemoth of a man is driving around, you know, Centreville in a fucking smart car.
53:57
Amazing.
Dude, that was probably one of my favorite parts of him, just like driving in there nonchalantly pulling into the parking lot and the cameras just kind of like panning around as he drives in the parking lot in that car.
That’s a really, really great moment.
And then not only that, but I also like how he always responds to certain situations like, oh, yuck.
54:19
He’s just like the very, like very, you know, again, a nonchalant, you know, description of events that are occurring that are very like, gruesome.
And he just says yuck to it.
I can’t believe you decampitate an event.
54:37
They’re not, they’re not just real people.
There’s the the real, the real ghouls.
Like like I prefer to them as ghouls.
He’s like there’s.
Ghouls every.
Yeah, they keep using and Adam Driver has that very particular way to Google ghouls.
54:56
They’re ghouls.
Like use Vincent Price, like, like, you know, yeah.
And and not only, but not only that, like, and again to the this is kind of it, this shows how kind of low budget this film is too, because it does often feel like Adam Driver and Bill Murray were on set for maybe like a few days, like during the whole production.
55:17
And then like the rest of it was shot off.
Because the best parts of the movie, arguably for me are when they’re just in the cop car and they’re just conversing, you know, back and forth.
I think that works out really well.
Probably the end of the film is really great that, you know, in terms of them, you know, basically coming to the conclusion that like, you know what it’s going to be, what it’s going to be, and, you know, let’s just get it over with.
55:42
I I think that that’s, those are the best scenes for, for definitely, you know, and, and, and again, this is a, this is a role that Bill Murray was like destined to play.
It’s almost like Jim Jarmusch was just like basically like if Bill Murray can’t be in this movie, we just won’t make it.
55:58
Just.
Beat just beat Bill Murray.
Yeah, exactly.
Which, which, which the older Bill Murray gets, the better and better he gets.
Like, sure.
So like the whole like when they’re talking in the police car and they’re like, he’s like, how the hell do you know it’s not going to end?
You know this isn’t going to end good because you’ve been saying that since the beginning.
56:14
And he’s like, well, I read the script and he’s like, what?
That was in my script.
And he’s like, yeah.
And it’s like, that totally sounds like a Bill Murray thing.
Like to be like, I don’t fucking read the script.
56:30
I’ll come up with my own ideas like, you know, for and you know.
Yeah, I like that.
I like them breaking the 4th wall every now and then.
I think that’s like a nice sort of illusion to, you know, the that it’s a film and and that, and again too, this film is one of the very minimal zombie films that where the characters recognize that they have zombies because every, every most zombie films love to have their characters be like, I’ve never heard of a zombie in my life.
57:03
I I, what is that?
We don’t have any zombie literature in this world.
We cargo.
We’ve never thought about the dead coming back to life.
And so I, I like it’s refreshing in this film to hear them.
You know, basically the first thing out of Adam Driver’s mouth after he sees them.
57:21
Is he like, So what are you thinking?
He’s like, you really want the truth?
I I think it’s zombies and Bill Murray’s like you think it’s zombies.
What you know, it’s refreshing to hear them just.
Kind of Well, it’s true because like, like, it’s true because when you look at the people who have been attacked and killed, it’s like, whoa, who would do that?
57:38
And it’s like like zombie, but.
Yeah, I mean, it’s great.
I think it works really well.
It was just great, too.
If I could Bill Murray and he’s like, you think of zombies and then wandering around the cemetery, trips into the hole.
He’s like.
He’s like, well.
57:55
What’s good?
Who the hell put that hole there?
All right, So what else do we talk about?
What you wanted to discuss.
So you were really offended by the eight different times that the dead don’t die?
58:12
I was playing.
I definitely would see myself as Bill Murray in that situation where after I’ve heard it enough times, I’d be like, all right, we’re getting rid of this disc.
We’re trucking it out the window.
I mean, I don’t like it’s literally where to be honest.
It’s, it’s very it’s, it’s a it’s a song that I think is, to the film’s credit, just very listenable.
58:35
You know, it’s not going to offend anybody.
It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s fine.
It’s OK.
It’s, it’s simple.
It’s.
It’s, it’s one of the best running jokes in the film.
It’s like, because every time they’re like, they mention it like, oh, like in the opening, what’s this song when we put it on civilian radio?
58:55
Oh, that’s Sturgill Simpsons.
They don’t die.
How do you know this song?
Well, it’s the theme song, Yeah.
And then, like, you know, oh, look at this CD.
Oh, Sergio Simpsons that don’t die.
I love that song.
Like, it’s fucking hilarious.
They’re like, that joke just runs constantly throughout the film.
59:13
Like, Oh, yeah, You know, it’s kind of reminds me of, like, New Year’s Eve of, like, you know, the band that’s like, popular and famous and nobody gives a shit about really, you know?
Yeah, and I I think too, it’s like that whole idea too, that like, hey, the, you know, the soundtrack has been all around you and you’ve been listening to it and you still haven’t figured it out yet, right.
59:35
Like you haven’t figured out the that the bad things are coming.
This isn’t going to end well.
I think it, you know, I like the idea of it.
You know, I’m not a fan of the type of music, but of course, you know, I’m fine with it in the film.
I, I think it’s, I think it works for the the joke, the running joke that it has.
59:52
So I have the best jokes.
Yeah, because at the end, like in the end, when Bill Murray’s like, oh the hell of this, it takes the CD and throws it out of the car and am driver’s like, you’re being really irrational right now.
It’s just.
That’s great.
1:00:09
Yeah.
And again, too, like that’s another this is a great point of another scenario was in this movie.
You know, it’s the understatedness of it that’s really funny where they just, you know, say you’re being irrational right now.
Like, I don’t understand.
You don’t.
Why are why are you acting like that?
It’s a zombie apocalypse.
Why are you acting like you’re being so irrational?
1:00:26
Right.
It’s great.
It’s amazing.
Speaking of, when Minerva like it’s grandma and she fucking like, you know, goes and she’s like, I’ve had enough.
Like, like that is hilarious because like, that’s how like a lot of like, zombie films, like you think of like Nice Little Big Day with yeah, with Barbara.
1:00:46
Like it’s like, you dumb bitch.
Like it’s a joke of Night of Living Dead now.
Is that like Barbara is like so?
Stupid.
And she’s so.
Fearful she like literally cannot move.
And it’s just absolutely, you know, when you watch it now, it’s it’s ridiculous when you think about how weak Romero made Barbara in that movie of like.
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I’m just so scared.
I can’t do anything.
I’m so helpless.
Well, she was next to a black man the entire time, that’s why.
I was very, yeah, very imposing black man.
What’s I say?
What’s what’s?
Who’s more idiotically fearful?
Barbara and Night of the Living Dead of Justin Long and Jeepers Creepers going.
1:01:29
Yeah, at least he’s able to do something in that movie.
Barbara is just basically a DID.
He cut out, did he?
I think it was his sister the entire time because he’s too busy playing.
Playing with her panties.
Go listener episode Jeepers Creepers as well.
1:01:45
We did do an episode on that.
All right, so with the dead don’t die.
What do you how do you think about it for a Halloween film?
Is it a good Halloween movie?
What do you what do you would you recommend it?
I mean, if you’re doing like a, if you’re doing like a zombie party, yeah, why not?
I think it’s a damn good funny, you know, parody like, you know, absurd.
1:02:06
Well, parody, I guess wouldn’t be a real word.
Like it’s just like an absurdist comedy.
And, you know, we’re not just doing parodies here or, you know, it’s ha, ha, Halloween’s all things funny for Halloween.
So yeah, I think like if you’re in, it’s in the right niche, fine, You know, So I mean, not, not say not everybody associates, you know, zombie films with Halloween.
1:02:29
So.
But if you are, I think if it’s niche.
Yeah, I think I, I would agree.
I mean, I, I, you know, I think like a lot of people tend to watch something like Night of the Living Dead for Halloween.
It’s got sort of like a particular atmosphere.
And I think the Dead Don’t Die trial is to mimic that atmosphere quite a bit, you know, from the cemetery scenes that it has to the obvious odes to the Night of the Living Dead scenes that it portrays.
1:02:56
I think it does a pretty good job.
And while I don’t think it has like a particular Halloween feel to it, I think it does a good enough job of creating an atmosphere to it, despite the fact that it’s a comedy.
So I would recommend it for sure for Halloween.
I think.
I think it’s a fun, fun little watch for Halloween, to be honest with you.
1:03:15
All right.
So we have to rate the film so on a scale of zero to 10 good and plenty’s that are the obvious poor choice of a candy.
Selena Gomez.
Oh, that’s the thing that we forgot to mention Station.
Not only that, she chooses a fucking.
1:03:33
Brisk.
Sure.
Who is drinking brisk in 2019, let alone.
Today hasn’t aged.
Well, you know who hasn’t?
Selena Gomez.
Because she knows that’s fucking garbage.
Yeah, her friend gets her No.
1:03:52
Who is?
Who’s the?
I mean, they’re like.
I rather.
Fuck good and plenty.
Which one?
Mike and Ikes, they actually have flavors nobody likes.
Listen like choosing Necco Wafers.
Listen Licorice is for people who thought like again.
1:04:11
If you gave somebody a pair back in like 1423.
What a sweet, delicious treat this is.
Everyone’s taste buds have been naked into the ground due to, you know, high fructose corn syrup.
1:04:27
If licorice does something for you, you belong in during the bubonic play.
So like, if you’re eating good and plenty’s bye, you’re drinking brisk bye, Your friend got a nice Snapple Peach and you’re like, but she does say, oh, Sturgill Simpson dead don’t die.
1:04:48
I’ll buy that too.
It’s true, but.
Yeah, I don’t have 10 good and plenty boxes.
I’ll give it a seven.
I love you.
I think the films were damn funny.
It’s really just got great dry humor about it that fits me, my style of humor to a tee.
1:05:12
I think, you know, Bill Murray’s fucking hilarious.
I think damn, driver’s hilarious.
Toda Swinton is also underratedly hilarious.
It’s a good little absurdist comedy about zombie films.
It’s yeah.
1:05:30
It’s like it’s definitely going to be a film that I think like it’s either going to be something that you like a lot or you’re going to be totally turned off by it’s very niche in its style of humour.
The overall like messages I think are kind of flippy, floppy, unimportant.
1:05:54
The core is something that I did find to be very lacking.
The kills too, definitely think it would have been better if they went more practical.
But I do think it’s fun enough.
I think it’s a fun film and if you like dry humour I would say give it a God damn go.
1:06:12
And if you like Bill Murray double you saw it’s Yeah, double you saw it.
Like it’s just all things you could want.
I’m.
Going to give it a 7 1/2 out of 10.
I think it’s pretty funny.
I think I liked it quite a bit.
1:06:28
I think that again, this is a you know, this is zombie movie that knows what it’s doing.
It’s not particularly original in the way that it presents ideas.
I don’t think that the the theme is like that surprising or different from any other zombie film, you know, because, again, stemming back from even stuff like, you know, from returning living dead on most zombie apocalypse causes are some sort of environmentalism.
1:06:59
So I don’t think that the theme itself is really all that, you know, compelling, but at the same time, I think that what the IT amounts to is well worth just the, you know, not being surprised at the end of the film.
1:07:16
You know, it may not have a whole lot to offer in terms of what you haven’t seen before for zombie movies, but I think like the overall idea, the rye humor, the combination of like a zombie film paired with a Wes Anderson style approach to humor is actually something that I would like to see more of.
1:07:36
I really enjoyed that element to it.
And I think like, you know, having Bill Murray and Adam Driver in the the key roles was, you know, what a masterful idea.
I think they do a great job, play off of each other very well.
We need to see more Adam Driver and Bill Murray together.
1:07:53
We don’t we haven’t seen it enough.
We need more of it.
You know, get this, get these guys together before Bill Murray unfortunately passes on.
You know, we when we can’t just have him attending UConn games.
OK, you need this man needs this man needs work.
1:08:10
So get him back to work.
But for real, I think that this film is is actually quite good.
I enjoyed it quite a bit.
But I can see why some people might not enjoy this.
If you don’t like the humor, you just really are not.
You’re not going to get anything from it to you if you don’t give it the first 10 minutes.
1:08:26
If the first 10 minutes are not resonating, then you could probably just turn it off because I don’t think it’s going to you’re just not going to enjoy it the rest of the way.
It doesn’t it’s not going to get any better for you as it goes on.
So but for me, worked really well right in my wheelhouse for for types of films that I enjoy. 7 1/2 out of 10.
1:08:46
Nice pic, good pic.
I’m glad we we got this one in because it you know, I may have missed out on it for another 10 years.
Who knows?
You’re welcome.
So all right, so that’s it for the dead don’t die.
But we’ve have got a lot more ha ha Halloween on the way.
1:09:04
You know, we’ve got what like 6 more weeks to fill.
So, so we’ve got, we’ve got stuff on the way.
You know, we, we definitely have some things cemented that we definitely want to do.
And then there’s other things that are kind of like trade outs, like the dead don’t die where hey, we may, we may decide we’re not going to, we’re going to skip that one and we’re going to do something else.
1:09:23
Who knows?
So, you know, obviously if you have any suggestions, write them in, send us an e-mail.
We might be open to doing all right.
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1:09:40
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