Unfortunately, we recently lost the bright and shining Catherine O’Hara. On this episode, we reflect on her career and hone in on a movie that showcases a variety of her skills: comedy, emotion, and even musicality. We talk about A Mighty Wind, the mockumentary by Christopher Guest and Eugene Levy about a trio of folk groups reuniting after years away from each other.
We’re also drinking Beer Tree Brewing Company’s Lift Lager, a schwarzbier!
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0:00-10:00 Intro/Catherine O’Hara tribute
10:00-15:00 Beer talk
15:00-end A Mighty Wind
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0:00
And they had no, they had no hole in the centre of the record.
So a lot of you’d have to provide the people complain that you’d get this vinyl of course, in those days and you’d kind of up to you to kind of centre it and make the actual, it would teeter crazily on the little spindle until the hole.
And that was a whole level.
0:16
Of course we had no control over that aspect of it.
But but they were still good records.
They were good, good product.
And if you punched a hole in them, you’d have a good time.
1:02
Hey guys, welcome back to Blood Micron Podcast.
I’m Ryan from closeplotation.com and I’m joined with my Co host Martin.
How’s it going?
We’re doing pretty well and actually, I don’t know, fine wind is blowing today because it’s been a little bit warmer and we’re, I guess we’re getting into kind of a musical spirit today on the show.
1:22
I’m going to be celebrating the, the revival of 60s and 70s air folk.
And that’s something because, you know, I’m, I’m not really a big folk fan.
And I think we talked about this a little bit on our previous, some of our previous episodes where we’ve covered films that had, you know, folk soundtrack, Easy Rider being I think the one in particular.
1:51
That I Easy Rider doesn’t have a folk.
No, not really.
But it does have like a psychedelic, Yeah.
It’s like 60s soundtrack.
Yeah, Yeah, I’m not it’s not not really like my my jam per SE, but but we’re we’re going to cover it today.
2:08
And that’s fine.
Because I think this is a movie that really sort of reminds me of what And of course obviously very much influenced by Christopher Guest films, but it reminds me of documentary now, which came much later than this film, of course, but does a lot of the same types of.
2:31
Probably an inspiration.
Oh for sure, 100%.
Yeah, what is this blue Jean committee?
Yeah, I mean, I love documentary now.
I think it has a really great aesthetic to it and, you know, and I think for sure influenced a lot by Christopher Guest movies and, you know, and a number of other documentary type films.
2:53
But this one is a, you know, a mockumentary and does pretty good job of showcasing like the mockumentary style.
You know, it’s a pretty well put together movie as a whole and it does a, you know, great job emulating the ideas of a documentary.
3:11
We’re talking and, and actually too in the, the impetus for this, this episode is actually unfortunately, Catherine O’hara’s death a couple weeks ago recently released that it was related to embolism, pulmonary embolism due to rectal cancer, which I don’t think was publicized that she had.
3:33
So you know, I’m sure probably a private diagnosis that she had had.
And unfortunately we lost her a little bit early and, and of course, it’s always a little bit sad when we lose, you know, a person who we kind of expected to be around for a little bit longer.
3:50
Like for her.
She yeah, I just recently saw her in what was it?
Oh yeah, the, the shitty Greek.
Well, no, I did recently watched Shitskreak, you know, probably a couple years ago and finished that.
4:08
It’s a great show.
You should definitely, definitely watch it if you haven’t seen it.
But no, The Last of Us is what she was the second season of The Last of Us, which was a smaller role, but.
What’s up, let’s say?
Who was she in that?
4:24
She was, and again, remember, I’ve never played The Last of Us Part 2, so I, I don’t quite know the storyline for that game, but she played like a townie in the Joel’s town there.
And she was like, she’s a psychologist figure.
4:43
Yeah.
I don’t know if that’s the same as in the game, if that, if that’s a a recurring character in the game as well.
But you know, for the for the series she was in, you know, a fairly minor secondary character, but you know, played a a role in the second season.
5:02
So that’s, you know, where I’ve seen her fairly recently.
And of course, I think she just had made some appearances for, you know, from Macaulay Culkin when he got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and stuff like that.
So, you know, she’s always been a really great person, really game for a lot of different types of films.
5:21
Very funny, you know, a member of a Second City troupe and just all around seemingly a great lady.
Any thoughts you wanted to share about Catherine O’Hara specifically?
Yeah, she’s, you know, it was really funny, you know, could played a lot of different roles as she has.
5:45
She’s a, you know, great comedic spark.
Obviously, as you said, Shit’s Creek is fantastic.
Gotta watch it, you know, underrated, great Canadian actress and, you know, comedian like, you know, like when you think about it, like her, you know, Eugene Levy and all the stuff they’ve done together, you know, even the back in the days and the 70s, you know, treasure this because it’s this type of humor you don’t get to see that often.
6:16
Yeah.
So anytime, anytime I saw a movie with her in it, do you know you’re going to have a good fun time?
That’s true, yeah.
I mean, I, I can’t think of one that I’ve ever seen with her in it that has not had, you know, some sort of lasting impact.
6:33
And yeah, again, she she wasn’t like super prolific, but she, like I said, was she was always game for a different kind of part.
And I think that that’s, you know, real.
She was a, you know, really solid actress all around because she could she could play these different characters and really milk the comedy from them, even if it, you know, may not have been overtly comedic.
7:00
The one thing I wanted to point out too though, is you know whoever was giving her the fashion tips on the single white female haircut of the Home Alone 2 era, that person should be.
7:17
How dare you?
Should be harangued.
How dare you?
You love that little.
Yeah, it’s so, yes, it’s so 90s.
It’s like a very early, very early 90s, like Beverly Hills 9-O21-O, you know?
7:33
It’s very fierce.
It’s a it’s a statement.
Like think about now if you were to show up with that kite type of haircut, you would be making a statement dyed red, you know, pompadour esque.
I don’t know.
It’s it’s.
It would be a Steven, but you know again.
7:49
Courtney Cox could only wish that Wes Leather have hair like that that’s.
True, yeah.
But yes, again, that that’s, you know, the, the unfortunate loss of Catherine O’Hara kind of pushed us on to do sort of a, a tribute episode, as we do sometimes when we lose actors and actresses that have, you know, meant something to us throughout cinema history.
8:14
And so today, actually, it was Martin’s pick.
He he had the the great foresight to to pick a mighty wind from 2003 Christopher Guest mockumentary that’s features Catherine O’Hara and apparently she, you know, they were nominated for an Academy Award for the the film’s song, original song that’s in this movie as well.
8:42
So, you know, very impressive.
And again, this is actually a movie I had never heard of.
This really caught me off guard when you recommended it because I had no idea what it was.
And it’s kind of strange because in 2003, you know, I would have been, you know, of an age where I probably at least would have recognized the name if I’d heard of it but never heard of it.
9:04
It wasn’t like anything big.
It’s not like compared to like the rest of the Christopher Guest mockumentaries.
It’s not not saying it’s not as good, but like.
It’s not as popular.
It’s not as popular as Spinal Tapper.
9:20
Like best in Show, it’s you know.
Yeah.
And I’ve always like, because I caught it, you know, back in the day, it’d be on like Comedy Central every now and then and on time.
And like, I always, you know, I’m sitting, especially in high school, really like, you know, sewing my oaks with 60s folk music.
9:40
So sure it was, you know, it was like, whoa, he’s right up your alley, you know, like and, you know, so.
Yeah, and I would admit to that, probably seeing the synopsis in the poster I work for, it would not have immediately registered to me as being something that I would want to see.
10:00
You know, like, no offense to that, but it’s just like I’m, I wasn’t really interested in folk.
It doesn’t really, you know, conjure much for me in terms of imagery, But now looking at it and, you know, recognizing the the mockumentary features of it and the sort of like ribbing that it’s giving to the folk community and sort of the, you know, the jokes that are a part of the movie, The poster makes a lot more sense.
10:26
And eventually, you know, it it it was it it is a good, inspiring poster.
So all that said, I don’t really remember it, have no real, you know, background with a mighty wind.
But I’m glad that I rectified not seeing it because I’d really I ended up enjoying it quite a bit as you had expressed that you thought I would.
10:54
So appreciate the the recommendation.
Yeah, no problem.
Because otherwise, I don’t think I would ever have seen a movie.
You know, this movie.
Like I said, the film, like it’s a film that I always recommend to people like for like Oddball, you know, dry comedies, like, you know, it’s just like if you like, have you checked out A Mighty Wind?
11:13
Because like I said, like, as we said, like it’s not at least for people our age and around, you know, in the film, even jokes about like, oh, we’re getting like, doing this concert to get, you know, with all the, you know, these three folk acts.
11:31
Yeah, this is going to be great for our senior demo when they’re like, oh, no, no, the kids love the folk music.
But no, if we got like two kids to watch this, this would be great, you know?
Yeah, yeah, it’s a it’s a, you know, it’s an interesting movie that I definitely would recommend to those people who like dryer comedy and and things like that because it’s it really captures that feeling.
11:54
All right, let’s take a break quick to talk about the beard that we have on the show today.
I was picking a beer and I did.
I tried really hard to fit with the theme and I looked for something that maybe had wind in the name or, you know, something that may have even been weathery.
12:11
And I couldn’t really find anything.
Nothing was standing out to me in terms of type of beer or in the name itself.
So I ended up going with one that I thought for one thing, you know, as a style that we like a lot.
It’s a beer producer that we’ve had on the show before, but haven’t had them recently.
12:32
And then also it’s kind of still got that like wintry type feel to it, you know, to to give it that sort of atmosphere.
So I picked Beer Trees Lift Lager, which is a Schwartz beer where you like, you know, a chocolatey type roasty beer.
12:54
Schwartz Beer.
Yeah, again, we really like Schwartz beers.
We’ve had a few on the show, I think.
Fucks.
Yeah, they are really tasty and just easy drinking.
And I think, you know, it’s that’s the perfect type of beer that you want for kind of a seasonal 1 like this roasty but light and beer trees is pretty much what it would consider a very traditional type of shorts beer.
13:25
It’s not doing anything, you know, too unique.
I think it’s capturing the taste and style of the Shorts beer very well.
It’s got nice rich, chocolatey notes, nice little roasty element to it that does not be, you know, it doesn’t over, you know, flavor the beer or make it too unpalatable.
13:49
You know, it’s not too extreme in the way that it’s roasty like a, you know, not more like a stout.
It’s nice and light, very sessionable, very drinkable.
This one is only four point 4.8%.
14:06
So you’re very, very light on the alcohol content as well and just overall easy drinking and very nice to just sit back with and enjoy on a colder night in my opinion.
How about you?
Yeah, it definitely hits the spot, especially with the weather that we’re having.
14:28
It’s nice and Roasty.
Toasty has really nice, you know, chocolate and coffee notes really easy, you know, nice light body, really good.
14:44
Yeah, Yeah, I think there’s not.
You know, if you know the Schwartz beer style, it’s pretty, you know, sits well within that, you know, variation of the style.
I don’t think that there’s like I said, there’s nothing really too crazy going on about how they’re brewing this.
15:02
It’s very cut and dried Schwartz beer style, and I think that that’s perfectly acceptable.
You don’t have I I will say too, sometimes with the short spear, you kind of on the after taste, you sort of get like a little bit of almost like AI don’t know, like bitterness to it that you might get from the chocolatey flavours or maybe the adjuncty style of that.
15:27
And we don’t get that here.
It’s very drinkable and very refreshing and and tasty.
I have really no no concerns about it.
And I think if you like Schwartz beers, you really like beer trees because it’s a perfect distillation of the style in my opinion.
15:45
All right, let’s talk.
A mighty win, Mighty wind.
Is is blowing.
Is blowing?
Is is a mighty wind a fart joke?
It could be.
I, I, when I, when I was thinking about it and heard it, I was like, oh, that’s a fart joke.
16:03
There’s no no explicit outright fart joke in this movie about, you know, the mighty wind blowing.
Listen, doesn’t have to because a song that you don’t hear in the movie but it’s on the soundtrack and that the Folksman had played on like Mad TV Blood on the coals, Yeah, is an allegory for like unprotected ass sex.
16:25
You.
Got to listen to it, but it’s it’s hilarious when they’re blood on the coals, blood on the coals 97 win in the wrong hole.
16:41
See, it’s it’s real good.
But yeah, you know what?
I never really even thought of that, to be honest with you.
Yeah, it is a joke as well.
I’ll let you go first.
You know what is, what’s the mighty wind about?
And what is you know, why are we here talking about it?
16:58
Oh, we’re here talking about it because there’s this music producer that owned a little nice little folk label.
He passed away.
Irving, I can forget a blast.
17:16
Steinblum.
Steinblum, Irving.
Steinblum and his kids one of his kids to celebrate his dad’s legacy.
They want to get like some of his dad’s, you know, top talents back to put a little, you know, tribute concert together for.
17:34
The only problem is that spend, you know, 3540 years and a lot of these acts aren’t in the know or in any relevance anymore.
Yeah.
So it’s just a wholesome effort to have a nice concert.
17:53
And I think, you know, part of that is the statement that, you know, folk had really at this point in it’s did really kind of fallen out of favour.
It was not, it’s not a super popular genre anymore actually.
You know, a lot of times folk too gets roped into this whole sort of genre or envelope of music that we like to call like, a dope contemporary, You know, it’s, you know, like that very undefined characteristic of those types of, you know, it.
18:27
An adult contemporary too is like, it can be a hodgepodge of things.
It’s not necessarily folk.
It’s, you know, it’s kind of all over the place.
But at this point, you know, especially in the 2000s when this movie was made, you know, folk was really not having much of A revival at that time.
Maybe now it it, it has had more of a revival, you know, and in different ways.
18:49
But but the idea behind Christopher Guest’s movie is sort of, you know, again, it’s it’s a mockumentary and the the mocking element is certainly here to to some extent, but it’s sort of a it’s a loving tribute as well.
You know, it’s not like the film is really like taking harsh jabs at folk or anything like that.
19:07
It recognizes that there are some goofier elements to folk, and it sort of lovingly touches on them.
I love I, I love the pure wholesomeness of like the whole whole.
Snack.
Yeah, like the whole mockumentary style of how it’s, you know how it does.
19:25
Like how they talk about it and stuff.
Like when you get to see the folks, man, like, meet up for the first time in a while and like, who’s that?
Yeah, you know, I don’t know.
I think, you know, you’re the father of a man that I used to know.
You know, you’re like, oh, you know.
19:41
The whole naive like, yeah, I and I like that a lot because, you know, this is not like some of those, you know, the documentaries of the future, like any of the Netflix ones are like, we need conflict in there too.
You know, it can’t just be, you know, a movie about bands coming together for this reunion.
19:57
It’s.
Got to have conflict.
Well, here there’s really not like and it’s intentional because it’s it almost is sort of banking on the fact that these folk singers have like, you know, nary evil bone in their body.
They’re more just, you know, these caricatures of people who are, you know, consistently telling dad jokes and you know, I I like that a lot.
20:21
I think that’s you, like you said, that the whole very, you know, easygoing, laid back attitude of the movie is really, you know, I don’t know, it’s it just feels comforting to watch too.
I feel like, you know, you just kind of along for the ride.
20:38
You’re you’re on the wind with them, but you’re right.
And, and I think part of that too is, you know, who you have in these performances, like the folks been are, I think, really a shining example of getting the right people who are both, you know, surprisingly good singers for the part.
20:59
And then also just really hit that the persona of the people that they’re playing, you know, ’cause you’ve got Michael McKean here.
And Michael McKean is great in everything that he’s in, right?
Like he.
Well, the whole the whole cast.
And this is like the, you know, one of the things that’s great about, you know, the Christopher Guest films is it’s always a cavalcade of just delightful, you know, character actors that are always amazing and fun.
21:26
And, you know, having the folksman be, you know, Christopher Gass, Michael McKean and Harry Shears just like this is fucking great.
You know, like, you know, like, oh, you know, we were playing originally, you know, he was down from Vermont and college, we bet, and we were.
21:43
It was just the two of us.
So we called ourselves the Tubidors as a that’s right, TWTW, but he’s a base.
I’m worried about hot, hot, high tenor, high tenor.
21:58
So we even have a nice middle part.
So we meant this one day we met this handsome young man.
No.
Oh yes, the whole you know, but keen sitting, you know.
It’s just great.
It’s awesome because there’s a sort of that call back later on in the film, but you have Harry Shearer there who’s, you know, they’re talking about Michael McKean, and they’re basically saying it didn’t hurt that he was, you know, a handsome.
22:20
Handsome man, you.
Know, he’s like, Harry didn’t hurt at all, you know, didn’t hurt at all.
It’s just a really great, you know, and that will eventually, you know, kind of play its way back into the Harry Shearer’s character.
But yeah, I like, I was.
I was going to say you have Michael McKean here.
22:37
Harvey Jean’s always great.
He plays Trumpair.
Yes, yes, he plays great character actors.
He’s a great actor in his own right, you know, in terms of like dramatic elements as well.
And you expect for him in this movie to really kind of be the stand out of the folksman.
22:55
But in my opinion, I think Harry Shearer is the bigger stand out here.
He’s excellent in the part that he plays of just being this very straight man character who just, I don’t know, like has this very dry delivery of things that shouldn’t really be that funny, but they are when he delivers them.
23:17
And he’s also got that ridiculous voice.
Oh yeah.
Well, that but also that ridiculous beard that he’s got going on.
That’s.
Like, you know, the Amish.
It’s like a Yeah, Amish braided beard that goes down underneath his chin.
It’s awesome.
23:32
And I think he’s he’s doing a lot of the work for the Folksmen, to be honest with you.
Everybody does a great job.
I’m not saying that, but I think like him, he’s a real draw when the Folksmen are around.
And like I said, surprisingly, the tunes that they do are really good and really fun because as you mentioned, when they were, you know, doing some of their other songs that are like you don’t have sort of double entendres in them.
24:01
Almost every one of the songs that they play here is a double entendre of some sort that is, you know, just waiting for you to look at the lyrics and recognize it, whereas they don’t ever explicitly reference anything like that.
It’s just, you know, it’s like, oh, it’s just a fun little poke song, you know, you see, you know, older men and women in the back and clap, you know, and I love that because it’s really great that they they go without double entendre route.
24:29
You know, it gives another reason to want to listen to the tunes, even though I do think that they, you know, they are surprisingly good at this trio.
Like it’s it sounds great.
What I say, like I, I, I absolutely love the part when they first meet us sitting down like, yeah, he signed us to a record deal and yeah, we were on Folk Tone, which was the the record label to be on back in the day.
24:54
That’s right.
Yeah, I am.
And then after a while of our albums, you know, and us, Helen, we got moved to, you know, full gum and say it was a subsidiary.
It wasn’t bad, wasn’t bad, but we just didn’t, you know, didn’t have the distribution.
They had no distribution.
And in fact, you had to put the hole in the records.
25:13
They didn’t even.
Oh my God.
Yeah, that is hilarious.
I yeah, I wanted to mention that for not to mention that.
But yes, the whole, and this almost feels like they’re doing some improvising here too, because all three of them are really playing off of each other when they like, start mentioning this stuff about the the record.
25:32
Now you had to poke your own hole in the record.
It would wobble like crazy.
It’s really fun.
It’s just so great.
Like imagine, imagine you spend your hard earned money on a fucking album.
You go to home, put it on a fucking like.
25:49
Pop it out.
It’s just a whole, a whole disc, you know?
What am I supposed to do with this?
I do love that that, that is hilarious.
You spend $35 on your, you know, double record and you get home and there’s no hole in it.
Yes.
And I also love tuks and so 60s and they’re showing, like they’re, they’re showing their albums.
26:11
It’s like singing, wishing and like, you know, like that’s like something that I miss from like the 50s and 60s.
Like what’s this album called Another side of Bob Dylan?
Oh, OK, it’s what’s this one called the Freewheelin Bob Dylan.
26:31
You.
Know like stuff like that?
Like, you know, various descriptions and adjectives of the artists.
Yes, you must, Peter.
Paul and Mary sing songs, so yeah, OK, you know.
Yeah, that is really good.
26:50
I love the Folksmen.
I think they are a really great part of this film, you know, And of course they’re, you know, 1/3 of the bands that are featured in this movie because, you know, throughout A Mighty Wind, the first part of the mockumentary is really introducing the viewer to each of the three bands in particular, right?
27:09
So we have to meet the characters that are involved in each of those 3 bands that they are eventually going to have a reunion show.
That’s the mockumentary is sort of like revolving around.
So the first part is kind of a whirlwind of meeting all of these different characters and people and recognizing the bands that they’re in.
27:32
And the second this, you know, the second band that we really start to meet is actually which one comes first is it is Mitch and Mickey next.
I think Mitch and Mickey are the second group that we actually end up meeting, which is Eugene Levy’s character, Mitch and Catherine O’hara’s character Mickey.
27:52
And together they made-up like this very sort of romantic kitsch couple, sort of like a Sonny and Cher type duo.
Yeah, it’s like Sonny, Cher, Bob Dylan and Joan Baez and Johnny Cash and June Carter.
Yeah, they’re kind of all rolled into one.
28:10
And I love this one too because Eugene Levy’s character has such this very aloof and almost like lobotomized element to it that is, you know, kind of rolls into his like how he had to go to the psychiatric hospital eventually and he’s you’re like thinking, well, maybe they did lobotomize him a little bit then.
28:36
I do, I do.
I do love like lonely after they broke up and they’re showing.
Like he was really prolific with his work and it’s like, I wish I was dead like.
You.
Know like he’s just like the music he’s making.
Like I wish I was dead.
Somebody killed me.
It was a dark time.
28:54
For her, I mean.
It’s just great.
Yeah, and the droll delivery and just the way that he, you know, presents some of the elements like where there’s that one part where he’s like, you know, they could have even done the 5th or the 6th or the 7th.
29:09
Yeah, it’s just, you know, the way that he’s very simple minded in in time at times is great.
But actually, I would say that mention Mickey part of this is really kind of ends up being the crux or a a large part of a mighty winds conclusion or like the one of the main character driven elements that you follow through to the end of the film.
29:32
Because you know, it kind of sets up that Mitch and Mickey were together.
They had this really great thing going.
And there’s this, the whole idea that during one of their songs, they would actually end up kissing during it because I was part of the lyrics of the song.
And it was like a very touching and moving moment that people really remembered from their performances.
29:52
And then getting them back together for a reunion.
There’s always there’s this.
Will they, won’t they?
You know Mickey’s already Mickey’s married, but you know, will she?
Yes, with Mitch. 2 catheter salesman.
Yeah, yeah.
And it’s, it’s great.
30:08
And Catherine O’Hara does a great performance of sort of like this, you know, this person who is really torn between the life she had, a life that she, you know, for a long time really liked and desired, and then the new life that she has now, which maybe is something that she might have settled for.
30:29
And there’s like, I think that really becomes one of the biggest parts of A Mighty Wind when you think about like the plot development of it and the the the direction that it’s, it moves in.
Because I would say that the other parts of the mighty wind are sort of, you know, when you get down to it, there’s not too much of AA climax to the rest of the band.
30:53
Like they, they all play and they, you know, they, they do this reunion and it’s great and everybody loves it, but there’s no climax to what they’re doing like there is with Mitch and Mickey.
And I think it’s, you know, it’s one of the through lines that really works about the movie and probably the one that people remember the most about the the conclusion of the movie.
31:14
What I was laughing at, like so does, does Catherine O’Hara.
Did she live in Albany?
Yeah.
Because I was laughing because when Mitch gets off that Greyhound, Albany, you know, New York Greyhound, I’m like, I don’t think that’s anywhere, you know, I think that’s, I think that’s fake.
31:35
I don’t ever remember seeing that, you know, when I’m trying to open it, you know, why would why would she move there?
You know what’s great though, too?
Her accent comes out in like full bloom in this.
Yeah, definitely does.
I wasn’t sure if it was intentional.
31:52
You know, I don’t know if it was either.
Like, is she supposed to be like a Canadian version of it?
Because, you know, obviously like, as, you know, we said like the, you know, artist, she’s supposed to be, you know, parodying, you know, but like she’s like whole Jeepers, you know, a little Fargo Y.
32:12
Yeah, she is.
You know, when she says things like, well, I think this is dinner, this is dinner talk.
This is more like dessert talk.
This is.
Dessert, you know.
Yeah, it does.
She definitely has that accent.
I wasn’t sure if it was intentional or just coming out.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the third band that we get is the new tech, the new Main Street Singers, which I love.
32:33
I think that’s fucking hilarious.
It’s another one of those really understated jokes that the film has.
But this, you know, when they’re when the one guy that’s in the new Main Street Singers is describing, he’s he’s basically saying, you know, we were working and, you know, we had a quartet and then, you know, we just kept adding on some more people.
32:51
And eventually I said where we have nine people here, we’ve got a nooftat here.
It’s like it’s not a thing, you know, it’s not a word and it’s hilarious.
And he just keeps saying it like we got a nooftat here.
It’s really great.
It’s those types of jokes that are so understated that are probably the funniest elements of the movie because they’re just delivered and really.
33:16
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn’t draw attention to it.
It just kind of lets that linger.
And if you catch it, you catch it.
If you don’t like, you move on to the next joke that’s, you know, around the corner, which is really great.
The whole, the whole meeting of Jane Lynch and John Michael Higgins is just like, terrific.
33:32
They’re sitting there and he’s like, Oh yeah, you know, like I just wanted to be it.
I love them.
You know, I didn’t get I was abused.
Music, yeah.
I realized I was abused mainly musically.
33:50
But I, you know, I learned to love the Main Street Singers and I just, I love them so much.
And, you know, I, I create cardboard cutouts out of gin boxes, you know, so I can play with all of them.
And then Jane Lynch is like, I’m from a small, you know, white trash town outside Chicago.
34:07
And then I made my way through San Francisco and made some short adult movies and, you know, I I mean, you know, a lot of these, you know, films and just jug my leggings like non long like, yeah, she was in that.
You know, I learned to play the ukulele because I was in a film called Not Tiny Jim.
34:30
You can just see to like the sort of when they’re delivering these lines that there may have been some cuts where they had to stop because they’re laughing too much to like actually deliver because you can just kind of see the the grid of a smile.
Yeah, just a little bit.
Have I said how much I I love John Michael Higgins as a character actor, too?
34:49
He’s he’s great as well, and he’s hilarious.
And here he is another star of this movie because he does a really great job in this very, you know, almost like preacher pastor esque role.
You know, you can kind of see, envision him being, you know, a pastor in a church and doing these sort of like folk songs for them.
35:10
Yeah.
I think even at the end of the film, he is the one that’s singing during the credits where it’s like he’s singing about Noah’s ark.
He’s like, and they said, you know, just listen to your listen to your Bible and do this.
Do what God says.
35:25
And you know, it’s it’s sort of I think that’s him delivering it.
So it’s great.
And then, you know, obviously their names too are Laurie and Terry Boner.
So, you know, another more on the nose, you know, double entendre, but it’s a it’s a penis.
35:41
And and and then I mean, even the whole thing with Jane Lynch, you know, saying how she was probably the only one that would do anal.
And, you know, in the movies that she was in, that’s not even the wildest thing about their characters because later on it’s revealed that she’s like, she has her own religion that she runs.
36:02
And it’s like, you know that we’re from the 49th color spectrum or something like that.
Well, it’s great too, because we’re done, Michael.
Yeah, of course.
Feel like who doesn’t walk down the street and go like, you know, like, yeah, all color, like, creates humanity.
And that’s why we’re on the 49th color spectrum.
36:18
Yeah, you can’t.
Down any St. without thinking about it, yeah.
Who does it?
Yeah, it’s amazing.
It’s like another just really random great character, you know, thing that Christopher Guest does.
And, and, and actually we, we’re being a little bit unfair as well because Eugene Levy was also involved in writing this movie.
36:42
Yeah, he’s, he’s always involved.
He’s also.
Yeah, we’re being we’re being unfair to Eugene Levy as well because, you know, he was he was a Co writer, wrote a number of the songs as well.
And so I just want to point that out, you know, involved in more than just being an actor in the film.
37:01
But yeah, no, that’s the I I love the boners.
I think that they’re, you know, a great addition because of just how weird and, you know, unique that is to to to really try to explain like this really strange religion that exists only in Jane Lynch’s head, as she says.
37:20
It’s awesome.
Also, we have to point out that’s in the the niftet that Parker Posey’s here, but she really doesn’t get much of a chance to shine.
She’s probably only in a couple scenes.
It’s still, she’s still great.
Nice.
Oh yeah, of course, of course.
37:36
But I’m just saying I, I don’t think she got she got enough.
Listen, you know, like when you have as many people in here, like even like Fred Willard, Yeah, is like one of the best parts of this movie and he’s only in it for like 3 and 5 minutes, you know, like.
37:54
I love the Smash Mouth.
Yeah, the dyed blonde hair, like he’s like fucking and like either Smash Mouth or the Offspring.
Awesome.
I used to be in the show back in 19 and you know, I would say, hey, what happened?
38:10
It’s the precursor to Bojack Horseman, Yeah, of how he keeps pulling out these like, I used to say this and like, what if, what if we got them together and they, they had a catch phrase, like where they just, they just said a catch phrase, you know?
There’s Hey, we hey, this song that you’re singing sounds a lot about like a whale.
38:28
You ever read the book Moby Dick?
Well, the book, you know, you ever read this in a 9000 page book?
There’s a there’s a catch phrase and Catherine likes to say it’s there.
She blows.
So what if you say there she blows and then water squirts out of the book stage and gets all of you wet and including the women, Then we start to, you know, John Michael Higgins, like slaying like boobies, you know, like.
38:56
We also can’t forget to mention Ed Begley Junior here too.
Who’s fucking hilarious is the guy who just keeps pulling out.
Like fucking Jewish Jewish.
Something just literally goes on for like, you know, like 2 minutes of going out.
39:15
I really, I really thought that.
I really thought that, you know, just.
Yeah, that’s awesome.
That’s a great.
You know, again, he doesn’t really get that much too.
And then the other scene that he’s in is when he’s talking about the production at the for the reunion.
And he’s like, you know, it’d be really great if we had a crane shot and this guy that it’s in the production booth is like, we don’t have money for a crane shot.
39:35
And he’s like, yeah, but like if we got the crane shot, we could really do like a pull out, you know, and then zoom right in on the the performers.
He’s like, it would be.
He’s like, yeah.
And we could just do like, you know, all these really nice shots and, like, zooms.
Yeah, that would be great.
39:51
It’s just like this.
Very dry.
I just, I just love the fact when he’s like when they sign up for like do the show and he’s like, listen, I know you probably don’t want to talk about your father, but you know, listen, I was a 16 year old boy in 1966, you know, and I was starting to like the folk music and the starting to go to see the folks man that go down to the, you know, down to the ticket booth and it’s sold out.
40:13
And I’m like what?
And it’s raining out and I’m sad.
I’m walking down the street.
And then some guys like, do you need tickets?
And I’m like, I don’t have money.
I can’t afford scalper tickets.
And the guy just gives me two tickets.
Here you go.
And I said thank you.
40:28
And that was your father.
That was your father.
You know, why do you do that?
And you know, the son’s like, that’s how dad was so bad.
Was always cared about people.
It’s just great.
And how about, you know, the quick Jennifer Coolidge steer, huh, Your one line is is that she really gets is awesome, though, about they’re talking about the I like he the you know, the one guy’s like I like, you know, model trains.
41:05
He’s like, he’s like you’re.
Inspired to pick one?
She’s like, it’s a good thing we have modeled trains because otherwise they wouldn’t have been able.
To make the real bandits she is under, she is definitely under utilized.
41:27
Yeah, right.
She’s only there for a couple couple scenes really 2.
Scenes it’s awesome, but it’s.
Yeah, it’s really great.
I mean, there’s so much really to to think about it and talk about it in terms of the comedy.
41:44
And a lot of it too is really so whiplash that you might miss some of it.
And it’s probably worthwhile to go back and watch again to, you know, sort of catch some of those jokes or, you know, maybe references that you didn’t necessarily catch the first time.
42:01
Because there is a lot, there’s a lot that’s going on at any given time.
And I think that that’s part of the Mighty Winds Appeal is that it’s really, you know, it’s really easy to just sit back and like, let all of these jokes kind of overtake you.
It’s very funny at times, you know, it’s very poignant too.
42:19
I think that the the ending of the film where it kind of comes together and showcases the reunion is awesome.
The reunion itself set on a, you know, basically it’s PBS is you know what?
I forget what they call that, but they they call it like maybe a peace hour or something like.
Yeah, PBN, Yeah.
42:35
In this film, in this film they call it PBN, but obviously, you know, the public broadcasting services, whatever they call that like event that they have or sometimes they do like.
Live from Red Rock.
You know, it’s this Pink Floyd cover band that we’ve got on here.
42:51
You know, PBS will do.
But it’s a a pitch perfect like.
I don’t I don’t think they do sound stage and I don’t even know if they still do like live from Austin, TX.
I’m trying to blank out Yeah Austin, TX is called but.
Yeah, I don’t know.
43:07
I, I, I mean, what I’ve seen, you know, this is a really like a pitch perfect reference to PBS, though I think again, this is kind of a joke that it probably will go over the heads of some people, especially now, because if you hadn’t really seen sort of those, you know, local broadcasts or the PBS stations showcasing sort of the, the concert series that they have, you might not really get that reference as much, But it’s.
43:33
Sorry to sorry to Austin City limits.
Yes, that’s it.
Yeah, you, you, you might not get those references, but for those that do, it’s a very good rendition of what PBS would end up showing on their TV channel.
You know, like, and a lot of times you tune in and be.
43:51
It’s just like this.
It’d be like some old fogies.
They used to play folk back in the day.
And then they got them back together and, you know, like old people clapping in the Audi.
You know, they invited the nursing home and.
Guys, get get ready because you know what?
We got an antique roadshow coming up.
44:08
Yeah.
It’s.
Great.
You, you probably had a nice morning.
You started off with a nice caught caught cup of black coffee, some Maple syrup in there because you’re from the Northeast.
You know, put that in there.
You little washed a little this whole house.
44:23
Yeah, you know.
It’s it’s it’s it’s great.
I I, I found myself really enjoying the PBN part of it because I think they did a really good job.
But again, too, like I said, the the, the soundtrack, the the songs are actually good too.
Like you can, they’re fun to listen to.
44:41
They’re, you know, they’ve got, I love them.
Great, I know, but they’re actually good songs too.
I I say I love them.
I’m AI know because I I’m the one that likes folk music, but I like I don’t like the one that sucks about the film version is that it is like inner spice when they’re playing the songs with other things.
45:01
I do like there was a DVD and I sent it to you.
They’re on the DVD.
There is the bonus of like the concert actually shot in full where they play everything and like it’s it’s great.
Like I love the new Main Street singers, like Patty potatoes in the Paddy wagon.
45:19
Fucking great, you know, fucking just hearing like well, like hooks me because like, come on, boys, potatoes in the Paddy Wang gotta get her out of there.
And then everyone starts saying come on, boys, potatoes in the Paddy wagon.
Mama says it’s more than Then you hear the Ding Ding, Ding 12 string guitar playing and like the banjo and I’m like let’s you know, you know, I mean the harmonics just hits like you know, so but it’s all great, you know, and.
45:48
Yeah.
Credit to credit to the film because again, it’s it’s a documentary, it’s a parody, but you know, the actual music.
And I know from like seeing like interviews and stuff like like they all like if they did like most of them did know how to play an Instagram.
46:06
I don’t think Parker Posey did it and she actually took the time to learn mandolin.
And I think Jane Lynch also took the time to learn like guitar to do the like.
But they’re, you know, so they’re actually sitting, you know, playing it and not bullshitting through it, so.
46:22
Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s really a marvel that they did such a great job.
And, you know, again to the the duo, the duet between Eugene Levy and Catherine O’Hara is great.
I mean, they that song is actually a good song, regardless of the fact that, you know, it’s, it’s forced into a comedy movie.
46:40
It’s actually a good song.
And I think that it works really well.
You know, and especially I what I like to is at the end of the movie during the credits when they give the music credits, they credit the writing of the songs to the actual actors, but the performance of it is to the characters, which I thought was like a nice little touch to, you know, treat sort of treating them as real characters.
47:05
And I, I, I thought that was really nice to do that.
But yeah, I, I think that they’ve done a fantastic job of, you know, recreating a folk element, you know, gently mocking it gently, you know, ribbing it, saying this is kind of the funny things about folk, but also, you know, an adherence to the idea that folk is a music genre that a lot of people like.
47:31
And obviously very reverent from Christopher Guest, you know, who clearly enjoy spoke to some extent.
It seems like it’d be pretty hard to take the piss, like super hard out of like something as wholesome as this.
Yeah.
You know, like, like you got, you think of like not all folk music was Dylan.
47:49
Like, you know, you know, it’s, you know, a lot of it was Peter, Paul and Mary, like, you know, Puff the magic Dragon, you know, studio type stuff.
So.
Yeah.
What else?
48:08
What else did we talk about that I or what else have an eye brought up?
How do you think they would have done against the bulk king of the Midwest?
I don’t know.
That’s tough.
And it is unfortunate that we didn’t have John Candy to show up in a movie like this because that I think that would be really effective as well, you know, to have him there.
48:31
It’s a long line of very successful actors who could have performed in this movie.
But yeah, I think that you know who they did get and the amount of talent and comedy that, you know, comedic personas that they have is really impressive.
48:50
And I think again, this movie is is probably a lot more inspirational than we a lot of people probably would recognize.
I think that it did have a lot of impact on mockumentaries.
You know, of course, Christopher Guest as as a director as well, having, you know, multiple mockumentaries under his belt, belt, but specifically this one in terms of like music mockumentaries, I think, you know, it’s very inspirational.
49:19
So one thing I loved think about it is I love the part that the whole time we see the folksmen’s practice and, you know, never did no wandering like they’re going to play it at the show.
And then the new Main Street Singers, they’re on 1st and they, that’s how they open up and what the hell, they go like, run again, what are we going to do?
49:39
And you’re like, listen, that’s just a toothpaste commercial.
Let’s just go out there and do it.
Well, they’ve already brushed your teeth with it.
So it doesn’t make, you know, it doesn’t matter.
And it’s funny thinking about it like it’s funny too.
Because again, what are the things about folk music is a lot of people who sing folk music don’t write their own stuff because it got it’s folk music, it’s passed down.
50:02
So like you go to a concert, like especially back in the 60s at coffee houses, probably everybody was playing the same like, you know, once like Dylan released blowing in the wind.
You probably had ten assholes up there, you know, singing do it their own version of blowing in the wind.
So it’s kind of funny.
50:17
That’s like, wow, we can’t do that now.
We can’t do that now.
And I also love the part too, where they’re like hot, like, you know, Harry Sheer is like, what if we played this song called the skeletons of Quinto?
You know, this, you know, the somber song about the Spanish silver Civil War.
50:34
And you know, I’ll be down here and Christopher Gas will be, you know, speaking in Spanish and I’ll be saying it in English.
And Michael Mckean’s like, this is a fucking ridiculous.
This is like, you know, but I I, I, I I I do love that part is like they just like, what the hell?
50:52
Like they’re not like, you know, pissed, pissed off, but they’re like, what are we going to do now?
This is just it’s just funny because Harry shears like what if we did, you know, hear me out, the skeletons, Quinton, Like no, no, no, I got it.
51:13
I got it.
Let’s let’s do our hit.
Our only hit.
No.
OK, eat at Joe’s.
What do you think about the the ending where, you know, after everything’s done, they’ve done the reunion show and then the film kind of picks up, it’s like 6 months later and they’re showing each of the, you know, main players in each of the bands after that period.
51:39
I love it.
I think it I do think it is fun because you know, Fred Willard gets to come back.
Hey y’all.
After that everyone’s loving it and they want ATV show.
So I had an idea to put them in like as babies and.
Supreme Justice.
51:55
Yeah, they’re like the Supreme Court.
And so it’s like a day they’re at, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Listen to kids.
But at night, they’re at home, you know, playing music together as one big family.
And, you know, they’re having little fights.
Like you should make the coffee.
52:11
No, you should, woman.
I should write that down.
Sexual harassment, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That’s.
That’s really hilarious.
The whole, you know, Mickey and Mitch, that’s funny too, because Catherine O’Hare is like, I think I let him on, you know, with the kiss.
52:30
And I didn’t mean to.
Like, I just, you know, it’s part of the performance.
Like, I hope he understands that.
I think it might have gone to Mitch’s head.
Then you see Mitch and he’s like, I don’t know, I hope I didn’t upset her.
It’s I, you know, I don’t love her anymore.
52:48
It’s all through theatre, you know, which is great too, because you can take it as like, because again, he’s such a basket case that like he like, is it, did he really do it for that?
Or is he just like, you know, you know, checking out himself?
Yeah.
53:03
And then we get.
Yeah, No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, I was just going to say it’s it’s nice.
It’s like, you know, again, it kind of brings it back to this idea.
And and I think, you know, it’s bittersweet in a way, because it at the end, you know, it’s obvious that Catherine Harris sort of questioning herself in her own role in her life, you know, as a married to a man, you know, of course, that she loves, but at the same time sort of wondering, you know, what, what could there have been instead?
53:31
And so it’s sort of that that whole idea of like there is, there wasn’t a happier ever after for them.
And so you’re kind of left with, you know, that element of this.
Sometimes that’s what happens, you know, after, you know, these types of musical acts and that’s, you know, that’s reality.
53:52
And I think too, it does find a nice reality to this too, because it’s not like, you know, the the folksmen are having a, you know, blast off career either.
You know, they’re, they’re playing like casinos and.
They’re literally up in our neighborhood.
54:09
They’re in Saranaco.
Yeah.
A casino that doesn’t exist there.
You know, it’s great.
You know, it’s it’s like, of course, you know, there’s it’s not it like a down or ending, but at the same time it’s sort of like sets it in a type of reality to recognize that like this is the reality of folk singers now.
54:31
And you know, of course they have Harry Shearer and in dressing in cross dressing there, which is which is actually, I think very, very what’s the word I’m looking for ahead of it’s time, I guess, and that it’s sort of like just accepted, right, Like he it’s not really played up for like a huge laugh at like, oh, look at Harry Shearer.
54:58
He’s dressed like a woman, right.
It’s more just like, you know, he just decided he wanted to be a woman.
It’s.
Crazy, like the way Michael Mckean’s look at everything.
That’s right.
Yeah, yeah.
He’s like, because he’s like, yeah, You know, after the show, I decided I didn’t want to do like I wanted to do this, but deep down I’m a beautiful blonde woman singer, not this Spacey, you know?
55:23
So.
And it like, that’s why I wanted to go out and be.
And they’re like, that’s right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it’s sort of just accepted and it’s really nice.
And especially how Michael McKean is just like, yeah, yeah.
And I think that’s, you know, it’s sort of ahead of its time in that regard.
And it did.
55:38
It does a pretty good job with that.
Like I said, it doesn’t really, it’s not really laughing at the expense.
There’s a laugh of like Harry Shearer delivering a bass, really bass heavy vocal when when he’s dressed like that.
But at the same time, you know, it’s not, it’s just kind of accepted.
And she’s like, yeah, whatever, you know, he wants to dress like a woman.
55:55
Sure.
So I like that.
I think that’s it’s, you know, it’s really good.
It’s a nice little touch.
And like you said, the Supreme Court Justice is fucking hilarious.
I I found that so funny.
I’ve just like yeah.
And day they’re hearing about like rape cases and stuff at.
56:11
Night.
There could be, could be death.
Penalty could be about death penalty at night they’re out of their robes and plain folk music it’s.
Great.
It’s great.
So, yeah, All right.
56:27
Should we rate this movie?
Should we give it a rating?
Yeah.
All right.
On a on a scale of shit, what was I going to do?
I had I had a rating and then now I lost it.
I was, I was going to going to.
Oh, yes, that’s what it was.
On a scale of zero to 10 penis candles, what would you give a mighty wind?
56:48
What’s better, the penis candles or the plants that are going to kill every person that there’s some dangerous plants out there.
I just want to let you know.
Which is funny too, because they do reference it later, Like, are you OK?
Michael B Keane’s like there was lavender.
It’s just funny because it’s like, how the hell that I’ll give it an 8 1/2 out of that 10.
57:17
I like this movie a lot.
I think it’s hilarious.
I think it’s just terrifically funny.
It’s beautifully try.
All the jokes are hilarious.
It’s again, like it’s a smorgasbord of, you know, great character actors and comedians and it just gels and works.
57:38
It’s so wholesome and so fun.
And I think if you’re somebody who’s a fan of, you know, dry comedy and if you’re a fan of, you know, any semblance of folk music and mockumentaries, I think you’re going to have a lot of fun with this.
57:54
You know, everyone does an A+ job.
I don’t want to list everybody, you know, this star-studded cast.
We did that the episode.
But you know, Catherine O’Hara too.
It’s terrific.
I love this one and I’m glad that I got to catch it 101 Random Day on Comedy Central and have it be a, you know, part of my life.
58:16
So I’m 8 1/2 a ton.
I like this.
I like, I can’t recommend this film enough.
It’s a great film.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would give it an 8 1/2 out of 10 as well.
I liked it a lot more than I I thought I would.
You know, I wasn’t really expecting a whole lot, you know, especially with the full content.
But I liked it a whole lot.
58:33
You know, it helps to have like a lot of my favorite character actors here in the movie.
They all do a fantastic job.
The script is great, you know, like you said, very dry humor, comedy that can just wash over you and you might not even think it’s funny in the moment, but then you think about it later on.
58:52
You’re like, wow, that was really funny.
You know, it kind of it kind of works in that cerebral way where you know, you kind of have to really think about it and reminisce about it and it, you know, it just kind of clicks at a certain point.
It’s frequently actually laugh out loud hilarious.
59:09
I think that, you know, it just manages to capture the essence and spirit of folk in a way that is just very funny.
And it does a great job of kind of like showcasing the heart of that to like the naivety, the heart, and that, like you said, the wholesomeness of it.
59:32
That just makes it a really easy, fun and entertaining watch.
So really, really good, really funny.
Definitely check it out, especially if you’re a fan of like this dry mockumentary style or humor or even, you know, like more recently the the comedy of like Tim Robinson, like very dry comedy, stuff like that.
59:51
I think you’ll like this movie a lot.
It’s very funny.
All right, so that’s our episode on Mighty Wind and our Catherine O’Hara tribute.
What do we got next?
Are we we trying to do Black exploitation?
1:00:08
Month.
Week, I should say.
Yes, we’ll do black exploitation before going into Scream 7.
Sure.
Yeah.
Black exploitation is up next.
We’re celebrating some Black History Month.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Not.
Sure, exactly what we’re going to do this time I don’t know, could be a lot of things.
1:00:27
So we’ll we’ll have to figure out what what blacks deletation movie we want to cover.
We haven’t done coffee.
Yeah, I’m not saying we are going to do it.
Just said, yeah, we did.
We did coffee.
Yeah.
So we did do coffee.
We didn’t do, what am I thinking, Foxy Brown?
1:00:44
We did Foxy.
Brown, did we do that too?
Oh, OK, all right.
We didn’t do foster Friday.
No, but I, I, man, I don’t I don’t remember those.
I I feel like I vaguely remember doing Foxy Brown but.
1:01:04
Maybe we didn’t.
I know we did.
Foxy Marrow for sure.
Coffee.
I feel like I think we did.
But again, we was thinking what I’m thinking of when we watched.
It was like it could have been like a year before the podcast starts.
It is true, yeah.
I forget sometimes, but I think.
1:01:21
I think what you’re mean to say you want to watch Roger Moore’s first ever Bond film Live and Let Die, which is it like?
Blaxploitation film, Yeah, I was just I was just joking.
It doesn’t We don’t definitely doing a Pam Grier movie or anything like that.
1:01:36
I was just just joking.
But I Jim, I actually don’t we can do.
We can do a Jim Kelly, you know, karate movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, I don’t know to to be determined on what we’re going to do for blaxploitation should be fun.
1:02:00
And then Scream 7 of course, which it got a Super Bowl ad.
I did not watch any.
Yeah.
Commercials.
I heard it was nothing but.
AI it was.
Sports betting and crypto.
Yeah, pretty much.
1:02:16
That’s it.
You got it.
But it’s just.
God, fuck this country.
Yeah.
How’s the car?
How’s the car?
It’s gone to me.
But yeah, looks so Scream 7 will be after that, so that’ll be fine.
1:02:32
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