We’ve done a lot of killer Santa films, but we’ve never done the extremely French Deadly Games: Dial Code Santa Claus, the precursor to Home Alone’s “kid on Christmas setting traps for bad guys” idea. Here we talk about the MINITEL, if the idea for Home Alone was stolen, and how closely this film hews to Christmas Evil (another movie we’ve done previously).
We’re also drinking Sam Adams’ new winter seasonal White Winter Ale!
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20:00-end Deadly Games: Dial Code Santa Claus
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0:01
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens.
Welcome back to the fest of the series, ladies and gentlemen at the Blood of Black Rambad cast.
This year we’re celebrating the season with new and old.
We might be bringing you some romance, couple of Santa Claus killers and a whole.
0:22
Lot more.
Stay tuned all Christmas season as we dive deep into the holiday hits these.
Are a few of my favorite things.
Hey guys, welcome back to the Blood Micron podcast.
I’m Ryan from closeplutation.com and I’m joined with my Co host partner.
0:41
How’s it going?
Ho ho ho.
Yeah, I should say my my festive mischievous elf, my Co host.
Yeah, we’re here.
We’re into our Festivus season here.
Or actually, we could even just say, like my I want to introduce my poll, my Festivus pole, Chris Martin.
1:03
I always wanted to bring one to work in the Yeah, you’ve.
Always wanted to whip the pole out at work, yeah.
Yeah, the Festivus pole.
And so we could have our feets of string and grievances.
The airing of I Know You Know Me, there’s a lot of airing of grievances.
1:22
I do always think that’s one of the funniest parts of that episode is when you know George’s dad.
We start with the airing of grievances.
Yeah, it’s fun to look back and yes, rest in peace, Jerry.
1:42
But it’s very fun to watch old Seinfeld and be like, man, Mary David really wants the genius behind it.
All Yeah, I know.
It’s always fun to watch and be like, if I’m like Jerry Seinfeld, such a asshole.
You know, maybe that you could tell the ones like that Jerry had like an overwhelming hand in like the Puerto Rican Day Parade, like everyone’s like, you probably shouldn’t do that.
2:04
It’s like, wow, it’s obnoxious, it’s annoying.
It’s like the fucking case, you know?
What about it?
And it wasn’t so far off that he had dating increasingly younger women.
That too.
Those are all the actual Jerry Seinfeld.
2:23
Inclusions there, yes, yeah.
But no, we’re not here to talk about the Festivus episode of Seinfeld, although that would be fun at some point to do Christmas specials.
Yeah, like, yeah, that would be kind of fun to do.
2:38
Like some of the best Christmas specials.
You don’t do a lot of whole lot of TV or anything.
We’ve done a few episodes in the past, but mostly we’ve done movies.
And also, you know, another one that I would want to do is because we’ve, we’ve done the Tales from the Crypt movie, but we haven’t done the Tales from the Crypt episode and all through the house, which is I think arguably better than the Tales from the Crypt movie.
3:02
Is there a Goosebumps Christmas like episode?
Or no, I don’t think so.
I don’t think they did ever do a Christmas one.
That I can recall.
Sad.
Yeah.
But yeah, that would be fun.
It would be, it would be a a fun time to try to do some, some special Christmas episodes.
3:20
But no, we’re not here to do that.
We’re here to talk about a different, different movie that I’ve been wanting to see for a while.
And last year I bought the 4K UHD from Vinegar Syndrome because it was, I think it went on sale again.
3:37
This is like the second year in a row where I bought, I bought a Christmas movie on sale and it did not come in in time for me to watch it for Christmas.
It came like after Christmas.
So I had to wait for like the whole other year to even have it be relevant again.
3:56
So that’s, that’s what happened with this movie.
And I’ve been wanting to, to watch it for a while and I never had a chance to, and it was the perfect time to do so, especially for the podcast and have it be a, you know, a nice little episode because I know you’ve never seen it.
4:12
I, I knew that, you know, it’s not really it has gained, I’ll, I’ll say it has gained in popularity since Joe Bob Briggs did it on the last drive in Christmas special a couple of years ago.
I think he did a did an episode with this movie.
But yeah, it’s been kind of living in relative obscurity for quite a while.
4:32
And it’s it does occasionally get on like the you may not know this Christmas movie, you know, list, but it’s not really super popular for most people.
So it’s not a household name by any means.
I will also say as we are throwing out hints that not very it’s like very close together.
4:54
Another movie by the by the same name, or at least by the name that this movie was given for its American release was released.
And I guess it actually wasn’t that close together.
It was in 1982 when the other movie released, so like 7 years difference.
5:14
But there’s another movie known by the same name, so that and I’ve seen both of them now.
I happen to have seen both of them.
The other movie is actually quite good as well and we’ll probably do that one at some point because it is.
It’s like a slasher movie, kind of a lesser known slasher movie with including games like a board game.
5:36
So it’s pretty, it’s kind of a fun movie, but.
Crossfire come to life.
It’s like a board game, not a crossfire, although that would be fun, right?
Crossfire fire.
You’re in the crossfire, crossfire, crossfire, which is fun.
5:55
I got that like for like my 6th, 5th or 6th birthday and I’m birthday Christmas.
Christmas, Yeah.
I didn’t have any money to play it with.
I’m just.
That is a that is a problem.
It’s the game.
Just sat there, shot the.
Little, the little.
6:10
The little BBS into the the thing, I didn’t know what the hell was going on and just be like, yeah, golf flag, yeah.
But no, the movie we’re talking about today is 1980 Nines it.
6:27
Well, the the actual French title is 3615 code pair Noel, but the American title ended up getting translated to or changed to deadly games.
And then it has, you know, a a secondary title of dial code Santa Claus, which is kind of close to the original.
6:52
M for murder.
Yeah.
And we’ll, we’ll get into, as we get, as you know, go into the movie itself, we’ll get into the name itself, the title and the 80s technology that’s associated with it, specifically the French technology that’s associated with this movie that is very obscure for the layman, especially watching it now.
7:15
You know, when you watch something like Home Alone 2 and you see the, you know, the talkman that he has, that’s, you know, that’s outdated technology.
But this is going even a little bit further.
Well, that was built specifically for the movie, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The talk boy that like this was an actual like.
7:31
This, yeah, this was, this was a thing.
And it’s, it’s very much like something that even I, I didn’t really recognize that this was a thing until I really went and did some research.
Yeah.
And I was like, what the fuck is this thing that they’re using?
7:47
So we’ll go into that as we get into the movie itself.
But yes, we’re talking Dial Code Santa Claus, otherwise known as Deadly Games.
And the other movie that I was talking about was Deadly Games from 1982, which is another slasher film the.
The French title’s a billion times better. 3615 code pair Noel I think it has like a very, you know, it ties into the Rambo esque actiony feelings that the cover artwork and the kid gives off in this movie.
8:14
So I I think it works really well.
Because that’s not Santa Claus.
Pair Noel No, it’s Father’s Christmas.
Yeah, it’s pair.
Noel, that’s a shitty version, OK.
The one that has like the hood and stuff that’s like the special it’s.
8:30
Skinny, you know?
Skinny you know, Popo Gigio with his basket and all that.
No.
Some offensive people might call it the inferior version of Santa.
Claus it’s.
It’s true.
It’s.
Not me.
I wouldn’t say that I.
I would.
I’m I’m a Santa.
8:46
I’m I’m a Santa Claus supremacist.
You’ve.
Got a job here though?
You know, it’s if it’s not the classic Coca-Cola Santa Claus, it’s not your Santa.
Exactly because Coca-Cola invented Santa Claus.
It didn’t exist until those smart folks at Coke were like, hey you.
9:05
Didn’t see a You didn’t see Father Christmas tromping around in Victorian Christmas carols, do you?
Nope.
Nope.
And because the Kinks also invented Father Christmas.
There you go.
Yeah, right.
You know, if that song alone spawned Pierre Noel himself, you know, just came.
9:26
You’re right though, the the the French title is, is actually like, and again too, especially with the truncated version that was released in America, which was just Deadly Games, which is not, yeah, not a good title at all.
For it.
If you were going to do anything, you should just have roughly translated because I feel like too they didn’t want, did not want to do 3615 specifically because it didn’t tie in like it would mean nothing to the American audience.
9:50
So that makes sense.
And so they changed it to, you know, in some cases dial code Santa Claus, which is in itself a pretty cool name too.
But to just call it deadly Games and try to drop it like that, especially being a Christmas movie and everything it like, no.
10:06
Well, the other titles like Game Over, hide and Freak, like like, you know, like, yeah, you’re totally missing out on like the Christmas cachet that it.
Carries.
Like, I get it, like you said, like I get it with like the 3615, like no one’s going to get that.
Naming it this obtuse, deadly gang style Coach Santa Claus.
10:26
It’s like that’s fucking stupid.
No wonder why nobody went out and saw the film.
They’re probably like what the fuck is this?
Yep, yeah.
I got I got to read a paragraph before going see the movie like.
I don’t understand.
I just didn’t have the energy to read it.
10:41
Honey, you know what we’ll do instead?
We’ll go see Die Hard because you know what?
It just says Die Hard and the posters just building, you know, not going to tell me.
Plaza blowing up with Bruce Willis, you know, grimacing on it, you know?
I agree mixed messaging there for from something called deadly Games.
11:00
And, you know, again, on the other hand, you’ve got me me, somebody who is not really recognizing that this is a Christmas movie or, you know, sort of stylized horror movie at all.
And they’re going and like go on Deadly Games.
What is that?
It sounds sounds like a nice murder mystery or something.
11:16
And they’re disappointed too.
So yeah, especially.
Because.
Especially because the film’s total shift is like.
So yeah, drastic elation.
You could, like, bring the family in for the first half of the film, and wow, isn’t this a wonderful little story?
11:33
It’s kind of weird.
Nothing’s happening.
You know this is a wonderful little.
Film it does remind me of some of the films that were released in the 80s for kids that were kind of questionable that I think Severin films got into a little bit when they were releasing Blu rays.
11:49
Like they they released a few that were like kind of questionable as to like these are kids movies.
Like they don’t really feel like kids movies, but in like in some ways they do.
And then like the like you said, the drastic tonal shifts in them are kind of like doesn’t necessarily seem appropriate.
12:07
That’s kind of they, I get the same feeling from from deadly games as we’ll talk about to the terminal shifts in it.
And the, the way that it’s kind of starts out, like you said, like a nice little children’s movie of a kid who’s like, oh, his mom’s working on Christmas Eve and, you know, he likes to imagine things.
12:26
And by the way, before we to the beer talk and talk discuss the film fully, I had no idea this was a French film until I started Pop popped it on.
I went into the settings for the Blu-ray and it was like, all right, there’s no subtitles that sweet hit play.
12:42
And then I guess the credits are rolling.
I’m like some French.
It just keeps going.
I’m like, and then like the subtitles are popping up.
I’m like, oh, it’s a French movie.
And I didn’t know this is what Ryan was talking about when he said he wanted to do French New Wave.
13:01
That’s right.
Is it the first in the line of French new releases we’re going to be covering it’s.
Right up there with anything guitar ever put out.
That’s right.
Yeah.
So again, yeah, I think neither of us have seen it, had seen it before.
13:17
And so it’s a good, you know, good intro for both of us to come into the podcast with that.
So all right, let’s take a break though before we get into the actual talk about the filming, let’s discuss the beer that we have on the show today.
Got a little lazy today, not only because just didn’t have a chance to go out, but also because we got slammed with like 8 inches of snow today.
13:41
So we knew in advance that we probably were not going to have time today to go out and get any beer.
So we kind of planned it earlier than that and happened.
I happened to pick up the Sam Adams winter seasonal pack, which is not something that I well, actually, you know, I do kind of tend to get that every year, mostly because I’m an old Fez Awake fan.
14:01
The one I have.
Yeah.
I have been for many, many years now, ever since I got it like 20 years ago.
Yeah, like 20 years ago and saw that it had the nice Victorian can and the Christmas Carol reference.
And I’m like, I want to try that beer and lo and behold, I enjoyed it as a winter warmer style and I’ve been getting it ever since.
14:24
So.
And I think actually one year, I don’t think this year though, they started releasing old Fezziwig in like their own pack, like a 12 pack of old Fezziwig, which is kind of an interesting idea.
It’s not necessarily everybody’s beer of choice because it is sort of like that winter warmer Old Dale style of like fig and.
14:45
Well, they know.
They know that you’ll be you know it’s fine to sell a 12 pack because you’ll be able to sell it for seven years.
There you go.
Yeah, have it every Christmas for the next 12 years.
Ah, a vintage one.
This one’s 2012.
But this year, the Sam’s seasonal pack intrigued me because it did have two new beers in it.
15:07
And these days, yeah, yeah.
And one of them is one that’s exclusive to the pack and then the other one was also released on its own it but it’s the first new actual winter seasonal beer that Sam’s released in a long time because they generally have, like I said, the winter lager is their standard winter style beer.
15:29
And then again, they do do old Fezzewig and the seasonal packs every year, but this is a new one that they have never really done before.
And I think it, this was a one that you’ve had previously because you were interested in it, because it kind of reminded you of one of your white whales, the white IPA.
15:51
And so you had to, you had to, you had to try it before we even got it on the show.
But yeah, the the beer that we have is the Sam Adams Winter White Ale.
Again, so not so.
Not only that, because of the white whale, it’s original.
Like, I’ve been drinking it throughout the since it’s been out because it’s replaced the Oktoberfest and Tall Poison Somebody over at Sam Adams.
16:17
It’s probably not Jim Cook ’cause I feel like the man’s been locked away.
That’s why it’s all gone to shit.
But somebody was listening to our podcast when we were talking about, you know, craft tall boys.
And we were set talking about how nice they are.
And we were talking about the Sam’s Octo, you know, tall boy and how nice and that was and grab 2 and be fine dandy and have a good romp.
16:39
And the same thing with the summer A1.
And I said when we were talking about the Oktoberfest one, I swear to God if they do something stupid like put the winter logger into a tall boy, I’m going to be pissed off because the winter logger is ass.
It’s literally the worst Sam seasonal going around, which I don’t understand why it’s stayed around for forever.
17:03
And the spring one’s the one they’re changing every fucking year.
But someone was listening because they created a winter beer that is perfect for a tall boy.
And that would be this winter whitetail.
17:22
Yeah, I I think that it is.
To me it is basically like a cross between like a citrus wheat style and their winter lager because it definitely has notes of the winter lager in it.
17:37
It has the cinnamon and nutmeg sort of warmer style that a winter warmer is known for, but then it incorporates that citrus peel, orange peel flavour to it to give it a nice burst of like, you know, fruit flavour.
17:55
And I think that works really well for this beer.
I think it’s really drinkable.
Like you said, it is probably one of the a perfect beer to release in those tall boy cans individually because it encourages people to get at least one, maybe 2 because of how drinkable it is, whereas I feel like that is not the case for something like the winter lager.
18:19
You’re probably not going to want to grab two of those and really go to town on a on the winter lager.
It’s heartier.
It’s much more nuanced in its flavor, like we and it’s also either something like a winter warmer or something you either like or you don’t like.
18:37
It’s not.
I don’t really think there’s a middle ground where you just like, oh, take it or leave it like it’s, it’s kind of a prominent flavouring and.
The winner saying the winner lager.
People don’t, they’re saying the winner lager because it’s like, like, you know, it is like a it is a Bach too.
18:57
It’s definitely more bready, hearty, like it’s like a like at night, like it’s got a very heavy, you know, prettiness to it, like a pumpernickel that makes it very can big to drink.
19:14
So that’s why I like I I really enjoy this.
I think this is a terrific new Sam seasonal.
It hits all the right marks because it’s a nail.
It’s light eat the body’s nice and light and easy.
You get that cinnamon, you get that nutmeg.
I love the orange peel.
19:31
I love the clove.
We’re big, you know, Belgian style beer fancier, so it hits all the right notes, warms you up too with that nice spice.
This is great.
This is like something that you, like I said, you’re going over to your, you know, relatives for like a Christmas party.
19:53
Bring a couple of these over so you can get through the day.
Yeah, yeah, for real.
I like it a lot, too.
I think it’s really good.
I would definitely pick it up in the Tall boy cans.
I think it’s pretty readily available right now.
But it probably won’t last long because like you said, Sam’s has been doing this thing where they have like they have like their midwinter spring seasonal and then they have their spring seasonal and then.
20:18
So this is probably not going to stick around much longer after Christmas.
I’m sure they’ll be moving in their cold snap.
Or whatever, Yeah.
Yeah, the midwinter seasonal that they have very soon after this, I don’t know if they plan on trying to keep this around into that too.
20:34
Probably would kind of be a good idea to keep it around, but who knows, Who knows what they’re going to do.
But yeah, try to find it because I I would say that it is a worthwhile endeavour.
Does this beer in the Cold Brew Coffee stout make the 12 pack worthwhile getting?
20:54
You know what?
I haven’t even had the cold brew coffee stout yet.
I haven’t tried it.
So I’ve had winter lager and I’ve had the white winter ale and yeah, in an old fez, but I have not had that cold brew one because there’s the last can in the pack.
21:10
So I didn’t even get back that far.
See, lazy because I like that.
Would have been like the first one that I, yeah, would have cracked into.
Yeah, we’ll have to see.
You know, that’s another thing that a lot of these breweries are doing now is kind of lazily throwing in a coffee inspired.
Beer.
21:27
See how cold burst outy it is?
Like, you know.
Yeah, I mean, I don’t, I don’t, I say that kind of lightheartedly, but at the same time it is like a creative lull that everybody’s having where they’re just like, what’s it going to be our last beer flavour for this winter?
21:42
Seasonal coffee.
People like coffee in the winter, right?
Coffee.
And because, you know, Harpoon’s been doing their Duncan thing and, you know, all that stuff.
So I’ve.
I do feel like it’s kind of gotten to be a little lazy point to just include another coffee style.
22:00
Yeah.
You know, at this point it’s kind of.
We need something else.
They need to come up with a new cold IPA or.
Something I mean like like, I mean like I do like coffee stuffs.
But at the same time though, no, you’re right.
It’s like, what do stouts taste like?
Dark chocolate and coffee?
22:19
Let’s just make it.
Let’s make a like a Coffee stout called Make It.
Coffier.
Make a cold brew coffee stout.
How do you know it’s cold brew?
I said it is yes.
Martin, you know.
It’s just, and I feel like every year there’s like a different style.
22:37
Like you said, you know, sometimes it’s coffee or they’ll say, oh, this time it’s a coffee Porter.
Or vanilla.
Yep.
Or, or they might call it.
Hey, we’re doing.
A latte.
You know, latte stout.
It’s like sink.
Fucking thing.
You know what?
Hold on, you’re on to something like a latte Nitro style.
22:54
Yep.
Guinness up on that there.
You go helping them out.
All right, let’s talk deadly games, dial code, Santa Claus.
So I guess we should start out by talking about the idea behind the 3615 code pairing.
23:11
Well, that that idea there in France in the 80s, there was a thing called the Telly Tell or you know, I think what it was originally released as was the mini tell.
It was basically like a small television with a keyboard attached to it and it connected to, to like a almost like a chat forum, almost like a, you know, like an AOL type chat forum that they used to have back in the day and connected throughout France with this chat function.
23:49
And and so I’m probably, you know, kind of it’s somebody from the 80s that lived in France that’s.
Absolutely not what it was.
With a French accent and twirling a mustache.
Taking offense to my very abbreviated.
Listen, we’re American.
24:06
It’s you’re you should be thankful.
We’re even doing a French film.
OK, That’s right.
Or even trying to address the fact that because to be honest with you, the mini tell element to dial code Santa Claus is actually, you know, if you it’s kind of blinking, you miss it really because there’s only one small thing that happens where it actually causes the events to unfold.
24:29
So while it is a a point of the film, if you missed it, you really aren’t missing out on much, but it’s still worthwhile to try to explain the idea behind it.
So basically that’s what it was, is a messaging system.
24:45
It used in France is kind of the equivalent of before the Internet really took off and it was a, a communication service, which is actually when you when you really stop and research it before the Internet.
It’s pretty cool, you know, that it was a specific type of device that was used.
25:05
It was in like city squares as you see in this movie.
You know, somebody might just be stopped is, you know, it was almost like a pay phone.
You stop off at the mini tell.
Hold on.
I got to send off a message to my secretary here on the mini tell.
I’ll just let me just stop in and and what?
25:23
They listen, I know what they’re doing.
They’re just like messaging constantly to people.
You are you picking your feet in Poughkeepsie?
I was thinking more that it was the the starting point of like.
Got any feet pics?
If you have any feet pics please drop them off at the corner of 15th and 9th and I’ll I’ll stop over behind the trash can and grab them.
25:46
Not only that, though, like if they print them out, it’s like, like, you know, like if you’re like in 1998, if you’re on like a website for like here’s like your your guide to how to beat, you know, Super Mario 64.
And they make Mario with like pluses and minuses and asterisks like, you know, in the little file.
26:06
And that’s what you had if your feet pick would look like, like, yeah.
I I think that though that the idea behind it is really cool because we’re we’re minimizing it a little bit, you know, because it wasn’t just for messaging.
It was kind of like a web-based thing that people could you could do like buy train tickets and stuff on.
26:26
It’s really cool.
But one thing that I did find that it makes it like almost unpalatable is that it was they had a a Zerdy keyboards instead of Cory like you know, our normal keyboards like what a Zerdy is unusable.
26:45
OK, can’t even imagine using it now.
So.
What’s what’s a space?
Looking at the keywords like E.
Space.
A space, yeah, but it’s pretty cool.
And, and anyway, so that’s that’s ultimately the idea, which does make sense that this probably would not have been a super popular movie to try to explain to American audiences because just, you know, just thinking about it like it was definitely not a thing that came to America, at least in the form that it was in like France and Belgium and some of those other areas.
27:26
It was, you know, obviously the three, the 3165 thing that it was using is not something that was recognizable to American audiences at all.
And so instead of, you know, trying to lay out the idea that I don’t think they really even bothered.
27:44
And it kind of like I said, the the movie kind of glosses over it and it kind of, you know, obviously for most French viewers didn’t need to explain it.
So it just glosses over it as something that happens in the movie.
And I think you can kind of as an American viewer take it at face value too, because the film itself utilizes a lot of like outlandish technology by used by the the child in the movie where you’re just kind of like, OK, whatever.
28:11
I don’t, I don’t know what that was, but you know, I’ll believe it because it’s like in the reality of the film.
So I don’t think it really matters that you need you, you know, about the mini tell.
I just thought it was a kind of a cool idea that the film utilizes and not something that you see very often for a movie such as this.
28:28
It’s even more novel than just a regular payphone.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Where’s now?
We need the Maroon 5 song.
I’m at a mini town somewhere in France trying to get hold of you.
And you know too, it’s a precursor to like this whole Roblox issue of like, who are your kids talking to you on the other end of that mini tell?
28:52
I still don’t even know what the fuck Roblox is.
It’s just an online game of.
I know it’s a game, but I, I, I don’t, but I don’t even, I have no idea like anything about it and.
You don’t need to know.
All right?
29:07
Are you a pervert or are you an 8 year old?
Then you don’t need to know about it.
What if you’re both?
What if you’re?
Well then you’re in the right place.
Roblox is the place for you.
You get to double up, Yeah.
29:23
But I think though the film kind of brings up this interesting idea of like, who is your kid talking to you on the other end of that mini towel?
Because and, and while I think Deadly Games is intentionally abstract in the way that everything gets played out and the development of the characters and everything, I think it’s a, it offers up some interesting ideas, you know, that address what was what would be to come from the Internet of like, you know, anonymous strangers talking to each other across the world and you don’t really know anything about them.
29:56
And you’re sharing your information and you know how easily trackable people would become.
It’s taking Black Christmas to the next level.
That’s right.
That’s right.
So the idea behind this though, is that, as I said, the the child that’s in this movie accidentally, he thinks he’s speaking to Santa Claus, right?
30:20
He’s he’s on the mini towel and he’s like, I’m going to write to Santa Claus and tell, you know, tell him what I want for Christmas.
And instead he contacts a guy that’s just in like this, this French square, you know, area who’s like, sure, I’ll come over to your house, you know, and we don’t really know anything about this guy.
30:39
All we know is he has sort of like a child esque demeanor about him and likes to play with children and gets into like this magic snowball fight at the beginning of the movie with a bunch of kids and it’s like first.
First of all, how dare you?
30:56
This person, That’s Zach Galifianakis.
Patrick Florsheim.
But is credited simply as Le Pen Noel.
He does look like Zach Galifianakis.
31:11
It looks like Zach.
Galifianakis I could also see like.
Father John Misty.
Yeah.
See that?
Yeah.
No, I don’t think the guy cocaine man, you know?
Yes, he is a particular pursuit man, especially in this movie.
31:30
Everything that you see, you know, I, I don’t generally tend to think of my Santa Clauses or Father Noelles as a, you know, with the chest hair just poking out of the the Santa suit, but.
The eyebrow hair being so.
Yes, I do like Eugene being so.
31:46
So Eugene Levy like.
Oh, yes, very Eugene Levy.
Yes.
I did think it was pretty hilarious, though, when he’s got like the fake snow and he’s like, you know what’s perfect?
I will just color my hair like Santa Claus.
He starts spraying the white snow on his hair and then when he when it pans back to him afterwards, he’s gone full like all out.
32:05
And now his eyebrows and the mustache and everything is all white too.
I thought that was pretty funny.
Like the way that it started, you know, started off kind of innocuous and he’s just kind of spraying his hair and his weird and then all of a sudden defrosted eyebrows and everything.
Because he kind of, it reminded me of like a kablam like Prometheus and Bob Sketch.
32:25
Because he’s like, like, like he’s like so like giggling and like, you know, happy with himself.
Like, oh, I can spray this on me and you know, no one will know.
You know, yeah, Yeah, I do.
I mean, I think too that the film, like I said, the film is very much on purpose, kind of leaving out any character element of this Father Christmas figure.
32:52
And you know, at the beginning of the film, obviously he’s just a dude who for whatever reason has a very particular attraction to children.
And it’s not really clear throughout the movie, you know, what kind of attraction is.
33:08
Is he just a pedophile?
Is he is, is he sort of mentally handicapped and he’s, you know, sort of got like just a childlike demeanour to him.
It’s not clear.
And while I do think that Patrick Florsheim and the direction kind of makes sometimes makes it seem like he is sort of, you know, mentally challenged sometimes, like you said, where he’s just, you know, kind of standing around like it.
33:39
I don’t know.
I I the film is, you know, obviously on on purpose.
It refrains from like making any statement about him as a a villain.
Like Grandpa’s vision, it’s also it’s opaque.
Yes, I do like wearing a show.
Grandpa’s vision throughout too, and it’s just like, you know, shot through 7 fisheye lenses or something.
34:01
That’s what my.
That’s what my.
That’s what, Yeah, that’s what yours is.
This man doesn’t even wear glasses.
He’s like, it’s be OK.
Oh for that, how dare you that is Grandpa Joe you know after going to the Chocolate Factory, you got fucking diabetes so.
34:20
He’s grandpa from Courage the Cowardly Dog.
First off, first and foremost we have to talk about the elephant in the room who thought Tommy’s hair was OK.
34:36
Oh my God, he has a.
That that mullet mullet, it’s that mullet is levels of bad, like, and I’ve grown to love the mullet now, like I’m older and like, you know, Gen.
Z’s bringing it back as they’re stealing our mustaches.
34:53
But I mean, this one is just so his bangs are like who?
Like who got this?
This grandpa cut his hair because it’s like bangs, like everything is so fucked and he just looks terrible.
Absolutely terrible.
Like he looks like he could be like Greg the Hammer.
35:10
Valentine’s like fucking tag team partner.
You know what I love about?
The hair is that it’s it can be transformational because he can when he wears it down, he looks very different than when he does like that Rambo esque tied back sort of, you know, with the headband.
35:31
It’s amazing how much he can transform that hair from, you know, basic, a basic mullet to like the sort of Rambo style that he goes for later on in the movie.
I love it.
I think it’s great.
It’s a impressive mullet for sure in the way in the aggressive way that it is so outlandish and I think it’s inspiring.
35:54
I think it’s something I’m going to shoot for when I, when I cut my hair next time, because I’m going for that moment.
Like I don’t think I can pull it.
I don’t think I can do it, but I’m going to try.
I agree, though, it is, it is quite, quite outlandish.
36:11
But you know, the film, I think what it’s what is it trying to say?
Is it trying to say Mom’s not there to cut his hair?
You know, because the film, you know, obviously part of the, the idea behind the film is that like this kid has the run of the house with his grandfather’s grandfather.
Can’t see a fucking thing, probably can’t hear much either.
36:28
And he’s there with his grandfather.
But ultimately, the kid is just running around this mance.
This they have, they have, they have staff.
That is true too.
They do have they have caretakers.
Caretakers as well, but this, this kid is just running rampant around this absolute mansion.
36:46
Mansion is not even the word for it because the film couldn’t even find a location for the movie because all of the setting outside settings are all models.
You could tell they’re model designs of like a fucking castle.
37:02
The seven, the seven different attics, like tops with like the big circular window.
I think one of them has Alan Wake in it, trash trapped in there.
It’s like it was like the first time you like enters and stuff.
37:18
I’m like, oh, this is Oh well say well, well played.
Remedy the Alan Wake’s here.
Sam Blake.
I think that the thing that really struck me is like they couldn’t even find an equivalent house till I just shoot the exteriors of they they what they were looking for was so outlandish, so ridiculous that they were just like, I don’t know, build a set that just.
37:44
Just why the hell do they even live like a like a place like that?
Because look couple because a couple of things.
One, his mother runs a toy store.
Not a toy conglomerate or anything like, you know, one not like a see go Toys-R-Us like, yeah, a toy store has like a board of like members.
38:09
When she goes to her meeting of like 12 of them for this fucking store, which makes no sense.
Like it’s just for totally ridiculous.
And then she’s like, I want everybody to be ready.
Like I want clowns and vagrants and dancers and everything for the outside.
38:26
So when people come in, they’re buying from us and they know Christmas is tomorrow and they’re all like, why didn’t she tell us this before?
It’s Christmas Eve, how are we supposed to find a clown for your?
Yeah.
And she’s like, well, my son thinks he doesn’t want to believe in Christmas anymore.
38:43
And it’s just ridiculous.
Nobody would be doing that, too.
Not that like, like, unless, like, unless we don’t understand France and we’re backwards.
Like who is shopping that late?
Like until 11:40 in the night?
I was thinking the same.
Christmas presents and like, it’s just so fucking ridiculous.
39:03
Like it’s so.
I.
Was if I, if I was, if I was like a local clown and they’re like, hey, they need you down at the toy store up till 11:00 at night because they got, you know, toys to sell.
Like yeah, I’m fuck that.
39:19
Yeah, because they show that one scene, you know, as mom goes into work on Christmas Eve, they show the one scene where they’re, like, in the store and they’re like, all right, it’s 1030, everybody, we’ve got to be closing up.
I’m sorry.
Please bring your last.
And there’s people missing around all over the place.
I haven’t bought my underwear yet.
39:36
What am I going to do?
My son hasn’t gone.
He started like we’ve been.
Shopping You know Christmas comes the same day every year you.
Know should I was to say there should be should have been like a montage and you just see so this is Christmas.
Yeah, I agree, though I think it is a little bit outlandish to expect that people are milling around at 11:00 on Christmas Eve like not with their family at home already having shopped for all of their.
40:05
Especially in the 80s and like stuff like I don’t like, I just, I just find that to be like.
And then not only that, but the mom, this is basically A Christmas Carol for the mom because the mom is like, you know what, screw my kid.
40:20
He doesn’t, he doesn’t even believe in Santa Claus right now.
I don’t care.
I’m going, I got to go into my job.
And not only that, but like we’re going to close up and the guys like, Are you sure you want to count this?
Like we don’t need to count this money.
Tomorrow’s a holiday.
Like we don’t.
Even know they made 10 million francs that night.
40:38
Yeah, it’s like.
I need to know.
I need to know for the shareholders how much we brought in tonight.
And the guy’s like, what are you doing here?
Go home to your child.
OK, It’s Christmas Eve.
Go home to the kid.
What’s what’s what’s that?
40:54
You hear Michael Caine in the background?
Go on, Mr. Cratchit, take the day off.
That’s what I mean, this is A Christmas Carol for the mom because when she then she gets home and she’s finds out like, Oh my God, my son was attacked by a killer Santa and everything.
And she she realizes, well, that’s what really Christmas is all about is family and making sure my kids are not attacked by a killer Santa Claus.
41:20
But not only that, she also left too to be with the guy that’s was like, go home to your family because she’s like, I’m going to get some fucking Dick tonight because because dad’s because this is a Disney movie.
Well, it’s French.
41:35
So instead of the mom being dead, it’s Dad’s dead.
We just don’t know what happened to dad.
That’s right.
Rest in peace, Dad.
I guess when you think about it, it makes sense that they have this, this like absolutely ridiculous house.
But like you said, why would they live in a place like this?
41:51
It’s kind of a disaster of a house.
It’s like he’s got like the boiler room from A Nightmare on Elm Street here, You know, in the basement there’s like a weird like fridge that leads into a workshop.
It’s a strange place to live, regardless of whether you’re like a, you know, odd, eccentric rich person or not.
42:15
I don’t know, you know, and the film doesn’t.
Again, this is another thing about the film is it never really explains any of this stuff.
It kind of just, it’s like a fever dream where it just presents all of these things happening, doesn’t explain it, and you’re just kind of forced to go with it.
42:31
You’re just like, you know, this is what’s happening.
So you’re either going to like it or you’re not going to like it.
I think the fever dream element actually lends itself pretty well to the movie because I actually think that it it almost presents itself in a way where you’re kind of questioning is it even really happening?
42:50
Like, or is the kid kind of making this up in his head or having like a Christmas Eve dream of like Rambo, Santa Claus?
Because the film, you know, at this at the start, it kind of shows him doing the same thing he’s envisioning like being in a a plane and like being shot down and everything.
43:06
So you’re kind of like.
When he’s putting the fucking make up on, all I can think of is the Robot Chicken sketch with Ted Turner becoming Captain Planet.
Putting the paint out of that Captain Planet, I was just waiting for him when he was fighting Santa and Santa be like, oh, you got glass in my eye, my foot in your falls, Captain Planet.
43:30
Yeah, one thing that this so this film often gets compared to Home Alone, for one, because it does have the, you know, the some of the trap elements with it, with the child setting traps for, you know, someone who’s breaking in.
43:47
But also it was really around the same time a little a couple of years earlier than Home Alone.
But also I would say that it is pretty closely resembling Christmas Evil as well, which we’ve done on the show previously.
44:04
Maybe 2 years back we did Christmas Evil, not also one of those movies that’s not really like widely watched for Christmas, but you know, kind of lends itself to the Santa Claus experience of horror movies in a different manner than Silent Night, Deadly Night.
44:21
But this one, I reminds me a lot of Christmas Evil because it has sort of like the demented Santa Claus figure who is obsessed with children.
And I think this is a, you know, a cross between Christmas Evil and Home Alone for sure.
44:39
You being home alone to cross because this is before.
That is true.
That is true.
Apparently the director, writer, director tried to soothe the producers of Home Alone as well.
Which is ridiculous.
Christopher Columbus would never ever I, I think do do do do work like that.
45:02
I think it’s Catherine O’Hare.
O’Hare would never, ever do something like that.
I will not have their good names sullied like that.
Yeah, I think it’s a a pretty big stretch to think that, you know, they saw dial code Santa Claus and they’re like, we need to take a lot of these ideas and I would say like.
45:23
But even even if that’s the case, it doesn’t fucking matter because I mean, what is Hollywood is a set like films are accessible to begin with.
There’s like, you know, look at the Italians, their whole film markets based on what was big.
And then they just pump out 20 different shitty versions of Indiana Jones and 20.
45:44
You know, that’s just, that’s just, that’s just cinema, baby.
Yeah, if the film makers wanted to go that route, then they really should have been sued by Survivor for the clear Eye of the Tiger RIP off that plays at the beginning of this movie.
Because it is basically eye of the Tiger, but just the cords have been changed, you know, a couple of octaves down or something.
46:06
Like that, you know, I was going to say, you know how some eye of the tiger goes dant dant, dant, dant, dant, dant dant.
This goes dant, Dant.
46:28
It’s literally the vanilla ice thing with like, ice ice baby.
Is that is that another one bites the dust?
No, no, no.
Their song goes Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
Ours goes Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
46:45
It’s different, Yeah.
It is.
I mean, it’s definitely very, very similar.
And you know, I think this movie has a really interesting soundtrack.
The two, the inclusion of that song and the Bonnie Tyler Merry Christmas song.
Weird, weird choices.
47:03
Definitely a weird choice.
Not only is it a weird choice to just have that Bonnie Tyler Christmas song, but to have it so inherently connected to this movie, where even the director of this movie, Renee Manzer, went on to direct the Bonnie Tyler Merry Christmas Song music video, which is a kind of a weird, weird thing altogether.
47:24
All right.
And again, too, that Vine Tyler song did not go on to do well.
Have you ever heard it before?
I’ve never heard it before.
Well, because it’s like, it’s like some, I don’t know who wrote it or whatever, but it’s like a drunk Rd. like Christmas Day is coming.
Santa’s owner’s way.
47:42
Jesus in stairwells.
He’s going to be a man today.
If this movie had existed with AI, somebody would have definitely accused it of like an AI writing that song because it is very random.
47:57
Like I, I was listening too and I was like, did they just say like Santa Claus is on his way, Jesus is coming his way, What are they even talking about?
I agree it definitely sounds like a drunk rodent.
Like was at the bar, Like guys, guys, guys, guys.
Doesn’t this sound like a really great song?
48:13
The guy who inspired people, the guy that inspired Pierre Noel in this film is there was some drunk in a bar like wrote the lyrics to the Bonnie Tyler song, But you got to make this like, you know, this is we’re making this movie based on him saying no, it’s.
48:30
Awesome.
It’s awesome.
I mean, the song is is fun enough to have it included in this movie is like a weird.
It’s like, it doesn’t even really totally make much sense, especially considering that it comes at the end of the movie where it’s like a really out of place where these violent things have happened.
48:50
Santa’s already murdered a dog violently and, you know, grandpa’s dying of, you know, insulin shock and and then here comes Bonnie Tyler, like Jesus is coming to guys be a man.
49:05
Why does he have to cry to be a man?
Like, what are you?
What are you going on about, Bonnie?
See, this is like, this is like a Japanese anime.
Like these kids have to go through the ringer to become like, initiated.
Like.
You’re 10 years old, good dog’s dead, Santa’s not real, your mom’s a whore, your grandpa’s died of insulin, and you’re dumb.
49:29
The end You’re a man.
Now it’s like, I think that the the film does kind of bring up a nice thing at the end, though not nice.
But it’s, you know, it’s a darker element to the film at the end where it kind of ends where he, you know, Sam dies and I should say Father Christmas dies.
49:47
And it leaves Tommy at the end feeling like it’s his fault because he tried to stay up to see Santa.
And his mom even said, you know what?
If you try to stay up to see Santa, Santa turns into an ogre.
50:03
OK, so you better not stay up to see Santa.
There’s not really great parenting there to see.
Santa Claus would come in as an ogre.
Well, First off, it’s because they didn’t know what autism was in the 80s and you’re trying to tell me this kids 10 years old, he looks like he’s a toddler, like he’s 7.
50:25
Him and his friends, they don’t look like they’re 10.
They all they’re all like 4 foot 2, like pre K’s.
They don’t like.
I wouldn’t look at that kid be like, oh, you’re 10 years old.
Yeah, you know.
I I love that kid that comes in on the bike too.
50:44
This guy’s riding a bike through the snow.
You ever tried to ride a bike in the snow?
Well, the kid did and he almost died and I went.
No, that’s what I was saying.
I was like, no wonder.
Like you’re riding a bike in the snow, man, That’s that’s dumb.
Doesn’t work for you?
51:00
The fake snow, when this looks like horrible, it’s very much looks like they do cram it like throughout to make you feel more Christmassy.
It’s definitely like got the look of like it’s honest sounds, yeah.
It does.
51:17
It does.
I also think it’s kind of weird how this movie incorporates, like I said, like this sort of dreamlike fever dream element.
I still don’t really know what to make of that whole grenade that has whatever it was in there, like marbles or something in it that he sends to Father Christmas’s way.
51:38
And then he winds it back up, sends it back, and he’s afraid it’s going to blow up on Grandpa, who’s in the night, the night.
Armour.
I I don’t first of all, he’s probably the safest in the Knights armor, right?
Like if it’s true armor, I mean, probably grandpa has a good shot of surviving that, but I still like that the whole sequence is very I don’t I I just didn’t even understand the whole sequence.
52:07
And then it kind of jumps after that and it’s like Santa Father Christmas has just caught Tommy and has him and the, the toy train.
And then all of a sudden Tommy’s gone and runs away and now he’s free again.
52:22
I, I don’t know.
I, I did not understand that sequence of events at all.
It felt very much like a dream sequence where there was like a missing scene in between that you, you just like, well, that’s the reality of my dream.
52:38
I don’t know, I don’t understand it, but it was weird.
But I, I mean, I guess what I was trying to get at too with the home alone element is that I feel like the traps in deadly games are really secondary to everything else.
Like 2 traps in the, you know, he’s only done two things.
52:53
Like, you know, that’s not really the main the last of the game, the movie.
Yeah, no, the last 20 minutes of the film I’m dedicated to.
It’s not like, yeah.
He’s not setting them throughout.
And and I think the other thing too is the film actually focuses more on technology than it does traps.
53:12
Like he creates his own security camera thing that he feeds to his wristwatch and he, you know, has a tracking device that he attaches with via like what you may call it slingshot to Santa with Velcro.
53:32
And so like that.
It’s more of the technology element, which I think is kind of cool for this movie.
It kind of sets it aside from other movies and trying to incorporate this technology that wouldn’t really have been big back in the day to kind of, you know, be one of the main elements of the movie.
53:50
I think it’s interesting.
What do you what do you think about the this whole like, so again, you know, a Christmas movie, Christmas horror movie, Santa Claus or Father Christmas being the main antagonist.
How do you think this movie fares when you compare it to some of the other, you know, Killer Santa Clauses or attacking Santa Clauses that we’ve done in the past?
54:14
I like, I mean, it’s better because it’s a coherent film and not just some Jackass or the camera.
It’s like, you know, it’s I think for a Christmas set, like I said, and I wasn’t even really expecting it.
I didn’t really, I had no notion of what to expect.
54:33
Like I didn’t even look at like a summary or anything Wikipedia when I started it.
So like at first I was like, like, like I said, like I thought like, OK, for like it’s like, look at kids film pretty, you know, pretty tame, you know, And then once like the stuff started kicking, like I don’t know where it’s going to go and started kicking up.
54:58
So like it works.
And I do think it’s engaging and a good watch and that niche.
And the one thing I wanted to ask you, though, I think the film, it’s just for me, it seems to be a little too cruel.
55:23
I don’t quite understand.
And having a 10 year old like have his like dogs, like like watching like a dog, you know, his dog stabbed right in the throat, his legs sliced open by the killer, the guy chasing him all night.
55:39
Grandpa almost shoots him.
And he, the ending, he’s traumatized and broken and, and you know, while we hear Bonnie Tyler like he’s a man now Jesus is coming and his mom’s holding and I’m like, oh, my little boy, my little boy.
55:55
It’s like, it’s like watching like the ending of Zeta Gundam.
And we’re like, you know, well, because I you, I know you’ve seen it, but like probably most people have it.
But like at the like Zeta Gundam at least works because like the entire show, like everyone’s dying and it’s horrible.
And by the end, Camille’s so, you know, broken and he’s just, you know, like a vegetable.
56:15
And so like this I can.
But it is cool.
It fits with what the how the show is though.
But like here, though, it’s like, I don’t.
Merry Christmas.
Yeah, should just be like Merry Christmas, is a shrug.
56:31
Like.
You guys still feeling merry and happy and.
Should go get Chinese and stuff like it’s just like it’s, it’s a downer because it’s again, like, I just don’t understand why like, yeah, the cruelty, like it’s not like a funny games where it’s like the cruelty is point because of like most of the stuff that and it’s over the top here.
57:02
It’s not it’s very ingrained and grounded.
But I mean, it’s not like, I don’t think like the film’s going for like a you better watch out, you know, the perils of, you know, of like home invasion.
57:19
I, I, I, you know, I, I just, I just like, that’s the one thing that kind of bothers me about the film is like, it’s like, why does it have to be the, the child that you’re, you know.
I I could see that a little bit.
I mean, I could see that, you know, it’s this is definitely like you were saying earlier, this is kind of like a kids movie at times where, you know, the beginning is kind of a happy go lucky and stuff.
57:43
And you might you might be lulled into this false sense of security that like, oh, it’s going to be kind of a kids movie.
Like, yeah, there might be like a scary Santa, but eventually, you know, it’s going to be, you know, the kids, it’s going to like, bonk him over the head with a shovel or something and escape and, you know, everything will be happy ever after.
57:59
And the film, it definitely has a very grim sort of ending to it where I agree it to some extent where you kind of ask at the end of the movie, like, but what was the point of it being, you know, so cruel and so overwhelmingly like down or at the end?
And I guess the the only thing that I can think of really is like, it’s like sort of an epiphany again of like that.
58:20
Like I said, the the Christmas Carol for the mom of the epiphany of like, wow, I’ve really been neglecting myself here and, you know, focusing on my job so much.
And I really should have been at home, You know, other than that, though, the traumatization of the kid, like for now forever, this kid is going to be associating Christmas with this horrible experience.
58:40
And I, I kind of like it, though.
I, I won’t lie like I like that that.
Glim darkness to them.
Is it supposed to be like the correlation?
Because he’s like dressed up like Rambo in Vietnam like, and this is the Vietnam like, this is like true.
Yeah, I like.
58:56
I mean, I mean it’s like the only parallel I can see is the.
Genetization in the PTSD that is involved in that sort of Yeah I mean I could see it.
I think you should I still I an essay for vinegar to have included in the insert for this movie.
59:12
Well, thank you, yes, but I mean, like, I mean, that’s the only thing I can think of because again, like he does like that like, but at the same time I think it’s I, I don’t know, I I think it does come across it by the end of just a little too mean spirit.
59:27
Not that it’s awful, but by the end, like, I think a lot of people would probably be like, you know, like, imagine like Home Alone.
And at the end of Home Alone it’s like, well, it’s not oh, everything’s fine dandy.
Like Kevin had a broom shoved up his ass and Harry beat him after death and you know.
59:52
And I think.
The cops shot them both dead and like, yo, Catherine O’Hara is like, Oh my baby, my baby.
Girl, I think two of us, like you have a point that it’s not just that the kid at the end, you know, he defeats the enemy and everything kind of goes back to normal.
1:00:12
It’s he at the end, he is traumatized by Christmas.
And not only does he traumatized by the events, but he thinks he caused them because of all the things that like have led up to it, like where his mom’s like you should go to bed.
You’re you’re still awake.
I mean, Santa’s going to be pissed if he finds out that you’re still awake.
1:00:29
And, you know, like all of those things kind of lead to him having this really grim ending where he basically says, it’s my fault.
This is all my fault.
I, I caused all of this.
I even got Santa killed, you know.
So because at the end too, he’s too hesitant to shoot Santa, even though he knows that Santa’s been basically trying to murder.
1:00:49
Himself, yeah.
He’s like, yeah.
He’s like, well, but it was my fault I did this.
So of course Santa’s going to be angry.
You know, I, I think that is pretty grim and cruel, but at the same time, I, I, I enjoyed it.
I, I think it’s, you know, I think it’s fun enough and I feel like a lot of people have been enjoying it too.
1:01:09
You know, people who have seen this movie over the years because I feel like they do see it less is like a cruelness and they see it more as just like an entertaining movie of a kid, you know, fight fending off a killer Santa well.
I’m not, I’m not, I’m not, I’m not saying that the the film’s not entertaining.
1:01:25
I’m just saying the last part is like, it’s like I’m and I’m and I’m one that does like downer endings.
Like I I don’t always like the happy ending and stuff, but like here it just seems like I said, it just seems a little like a little too cruel.
Like I’m not saying it has to be a perfect ending, but like the basically it yeah, no bot.
1:01:47
Yeah, I know.
I definitely agree with that, though.
I think it is cruel when you really stop and think about it.
And I think it’s definitely not something that you want to put on for like a Christmas party and be like, guys, guys, guys, you’re going to want to see this movie like everybody.
‘S show it to you, show it to your kids and be like listen here you little shit shit.
1:02:06
If you try to stay up saying don’t come and fucking murder, it’s kind of.
Like that same scene in Silent Night Deadly Night when they go to visit the kids grandfather and he’s like.
Santa’s watching.
He’s watching you.
You know, so it’s it’s kind of like that idea, but like played out.
1:02:23
It’s kind of your movie of you’ve been a bad kid and here comes Santa.
What else?
What else?
What else did we talk about?
Covered a lot.
What the hell was it that was left on the table for Santa?
Was that supposed to be like fruitcake fruit loaf for?
1:02:39
Oh, I don’t know, I mean I would be pissed too if Santa if they were leaving fruitcake out for like, that’s not a oh.
I would tell.
That’s not a an appropriate Santa snack.
Santa needs carbs and sugar to run on.
And possibly it’d be I used to leave, try to leave Santa wine cooler too.
1:02:58
My parents would be like, Are you sure leave him a wine cooler?
Are you sure you don’t want to just leave him like milk for his cookies?
And I’d be like, no, I want Santa to have a wine cooler.
He needs a wine cooler.
He’s been a stressful night.
Damn it dad, he needs a Zema Stan.
I don’t know what my fascination was with getting Santa drunk on wine coolers.
1:03:19
You know, because I mean those bottle I like I I’ve mentioned it before on the podcast, I miss the smell of those things so bad.
Sure, like I like I miss wine cooler so much from the 90s because they’re pure sugar and the smell like anyone like drank like 30 of them.
1:03:37
I imagine it was like a three percent, 4%, you know, beverage with that.
But like maybe I just need for my redneck family talking.
But you can smell like, you know, just them, like, you know, on the wind, like, oh, your aunt so and so’s been, you know, drinking a lot of those wine coolers at the cookout.
1:03:59
Yeah, that’s great, I think.
That’s it, Yeah.
So on a scale of zero to 10 literal Christmas throwing stars, which I thought was pretty interesting, how he has those like little things that he throws, what would you give?
1:04:21
His little Naruto shirt.
Yeah, yeah.
And then?
Oh, I will be whole cocky one day.
But that also that that crutch thing that he assembles together.
I know again, like the kids got on.
I would have been lying there dead.
Like, you know, like if I was 10 years old, like slit my calf, I wouldn’t be like, what can I do?
1:04:43
What can I do to jury rig, you know, to Walker?
Like that that meme video of like when your father has that one weird wooden block that’s lying around that he didn’t know what to do with and he keeps it until the perfect time.
1:04:59
Like.
I’ve got it.
I’ve got the block for this.
Yes, that’s.
Been waiting your whole, yeah, waiting his whole life to be like, I know what the yeah, I know what you’re talking of.
I’ve studied Vietnam War medics.
I know how to assemble.
1:05:14
Listen.
You don’t know how many times I’ve seen fucking platoon God damn it.
Yeah, All right, So what would you give deadly games?
Dial code?
Santa Claus.
Give it a six out of 10.
It’s a fun enough film.
I don’t think it’s bad at all.
1:05:31
It’s, you know, enjoyable.
Like, I do like the premise.
I think it’s neat.
I think it works.
It’s not too like overly Christmassy like for a Christmas film, it’s pretty muted with the shitty snow and no decorations really or anything.
1:05:49
But for like a home invasion film, I it’s it’s pretty good and it’s brisk enough and well paced enough to be entertained, you know, entertaining.
Like I said, enjoyment you’re going to have is going to vary on how much you like seeing a 10 year old suffer, you know, So the ending in some of the tone throughout when the invasions going on is, you know, pretty cruel.
1:06:27
But nothing like that I would say is, you know, damning and, like, unwatchable and.
But yeah, it’s a neat little film.
Yeah.
To call it like Home alone, like a copy is being very disingenuous because the trap part and all of that is very muted and not that big of a part of this film, you know?
1:06:54
I mean, the kids running around with a Rambo outfit on with like, blow darts.
So like, you know, so it’s not like a trap, you know, action set pieces so well, yeah, no, it’s it’s a fun enough film.
1:07:10
I would say.
If you haven’t seen, check it out.
Yeah, 6 out of 10.
Yeah, I’d, I’d give it like a 7 out of 10.
I thought it was pretty entertaining.
I think it for a lot of it is kind of like a fluffy film.
1:07:25
It’s kind of just kind of does things and you go with it because again, it’s very fever dream mask.
It really has a storyline that progresses and it really kind of makes it so that the audience cannot question what’s going on.
1:07:43
If you question it too much, you’re kind of missing out on the sort of like magic of it just doing its thing when you don’t really try to analyse it too hard.
I think it’s really entertaining in the way that it comes off with the technology.
Archaic and though maybe now or maybe not even recognizable for American audiences, I think it’s got an interesting set up for it.
1:08:08
You know, it tries to offer up a different take on the killer Santa format without going like expressly horror.
I think that it does that pretty well.
Remains entertaining throughout with, you know, very fast-paced 90 minutes.
1:08:25
I think it has some nice set designs as well, even though, like we said, the exteriors are obviously models and there’s a fake snow element to them.
I think part of it too, there’s a charm in that fake snow and the way that it has this very 80s feel to the Christmas element to it, which is kind of like apparent when you see the storefront outside when there’s like the acrobats, like who first of all, who has a circus on Christmas Eve.
1:08:55
I don’t there’s no real correlation.
Maybe that’s a French thing, but I think that it’s, you know, it has like a very 80s feel to it.
So the aesthetic itself is going to lend itself to people who really appreciate that type of film, especially for Christmas time.
1:09:11
And I think it’s, you know, for for type of Christmas movie, this is a really unique one that probably a lot of people have not seen.
So it’s good introduction to this kind of thing.
And I think that, you know, it’s, it’s definitely worth watching, especially if you’ve not seen it before.
1:09:27
You know, it’s, it’s kind of a interesting twist on the on the Christmas horror movie.
So 7 out of 10 for me.
I, I enjoyed it enough.
All right, so that’s our episode on deadly games or dial code Santa Claus.
1:09:46
We think we still got 2 episodes of Festivus series to go, so we’ll continue working on those as the Christmas season continues and we’ll be releasing the last episode.
Since Christmas happens on a Thursday this year, we’ll release that last episode prior to Christmas, probably on Christmas Eve or something like that.
1:10:06
So I’ll try to get that done early for you.
I don’t even know what we’re going to do next.
We have have some ideas but.
We don’t have a plan this.
Year yeah, we didn’t really do like a specific outline of what we’re going to do now I, I probably don’t want to continue with the same like I, I, I think this year we’ve tried to go a little different directions with each of the movies so we’ll probably again try to remain with that and you know do something a little bit different than, you know, the Hallmark romance that we’ve done or the Christmas action horror movie that.
1:10:40
We did listen us doing that movie is why the.
Bills won’t on Sunday.
That’s right.
That’s right, that.
Game was going ass over, was going ass over tea kettle until Christian Bedford and then pick 6.
I didn’t.
1:10:57
I wasn’t watching it.
I had to listen to it on the radio because I don’t I don’t have cable but it was.
Exciting.
And somebody threw our podcast on the headphones for Josh Allen, woke him up a little bit.
Wow, that blood.
And Black Run podcast, so insightful on that.
1:11:15
Kaylee Seinfeld’s like, I’m going to leave you for that, Chris Martin, if you don’t, That’s right.
Get your shit together.
Yeah.
So I don’t know what’s to come, but I’m sure we’ll figure it out before next week.
Hebrew hammer, There you go.
1:11:32
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1:11:48
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Well, I have a question.
Consideration.
Yeah, I do have a question.
Sure.
When you go on to Blue Sky, does it play the song?
1:12:09
It does not.
You know what song you’re talking about, right?
Yeah, I do OK it.
Does you, you think that’d be nice?
You know, like the way to like get people over there, you know, you just do.
They should.
1:12:24
Die.
Yeah, they should get that, the rights to that.
I’m sure it’s expensive, so just to do what this film did and do a WCW to just knock, knock it off.
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1:12:47
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1:13:03
Made of that.
Yeah, that’d be fun.
John Cena just showed up in the in an episode of Pluribus as well.
That the new show that you know the guy from better call Sawdale while my Vince Gillian.
1:13:23
Yeah, So John Cena’s in there.
Surprise cameo.
I’m not going to tell you what it’s what it is.
It’s already revealing.
It alone is a spoiler, but he’s in it just so you know.
We need John Cena and Fargo.
1:13:41
Yeah, yeah.
People have been saying, you know, he’s showing up everywhere now so.
Well, yeah, all right.
Well, thanks for listening to episode.
Hope you enjoyed it.
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