Episode: 353 • Duration: 01:14:40
It’s yet another Friday the 13th, which means we should continue our coverage of the franchise! We’re talking Jason Lives today, in which Jason comes back from the dead thanks to Frankenstein’s revivification scheme and terrorizes another group of hapless teens and adults. We talk about the unseriousness of this movie and how enjoyable that actually makes it!
We’re also talking Fidens Brewing Company’s A Murder of Crows triple IPA in this episode.
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0:00-14:00 Intro
14:00-24:00 Beer talk
24:00-end Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives
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0:01
Just get us to Cunningham Rd.
I could lose him.
Stay down.
Whatever you say.
That’s what I want.
0:18
It’s going to be a hairy turn.
Hang on.
1:01
Hey guys, welcome back to the Blown Micron podcast.
I’m Ryan from coldsplatation.com and I’m joined with my Co host part.
How’s it going?
Actually I was hearing something in the background.
It’s the looming sound of us not doing any Friday the 13th episodes for the past few years.
1:23
I thought you’re going to say the big boom that we still saw and listens from our hot take episode on Scream 7.
Yeah.
No, I don’t.
I don’t know anything about that, no.
In fact, I think Barry Weiss is so annoyed by it in the Ellison that might be on on the new sound like Good Morning America or something.
1:47
Could be, yeah, she’s probably mad.
No, no, we’re, we’re coming up on, on Friday 13th this time, right?
And we, we’ve talked about this before, but the last time we really didn’t do any Friday 13th episodes.
2:04
And it’s been a really long time since we’ve actually done any Friday the 13th episodes whatsoever though.
So we’ve, you know, we’ve kind of gone through this before as well, but we’ve started our series of Friday the 13th episodes with the J Movie Talk podcast, who had asked us to do Friday 13th one through 3 for their their celebration of Friday 13th.
2:30
So we generally don’t do multiple multi film episodes, but in that case, we made a little, you know, exclusion for it and we did a multi episode, which was difficult actually, because we really do try to take a long time to talk about all the things that are in the movie.
2:51
And so it was really hard to try to like manage a multi film episode such as that, you know, and, and do a good job with each film, but we did it So and I believe that’s still up on the Jay Movie Talk podcast.
So you should definitely go and check that out and, you know, listen to it and you can get caught up on our, our first 3 episodes for the Friday 13th series.
3:16
And then after that we did four and five.
You know, I think we just did them randomly like when there was a Friday the 13th or something.
We managed to do them.
And five was like what, two or three years ago, I think, I think.
Three years ago, almost now.
3:32
Story would know, but yeah, I think, I think you know.
It which feels also like I we just did that episode like yesterday, which also shows how, you know, really old we’re getting.
Really.
It feels like we just did it, huh?
In my head.
I don’t know enough for me, it’s been a while.
3:48
I don’t.
Really remember it.
I just, I don’t remember like the episode that was.
I feel like I just watched that film.
Not that long.
Oh, I see it like like 4.
I don’t really like that does feel like a long time ago.
But you know, 5 I feel like, Oh yeah, yeah, I remember.
4:03
He’s like, dude, not a damn long ago.
Now I feel you.
Yeah, I agree.
I can see that being, you know, an outlier, especially because I don’t, if I remember correctly, I don’t know if we really loved part 5 that much.
I don’t know if we had like a great amount of things to say about it, but you know.
4:23
Well, well, not only that, I have always been, since the beginning, a not a big fan.
I don’t care.
I don’t care for the movies and I think they’re just a bunch of horrible schlock.
4:44
I don’t understand why they got popular and I’ve seen most of them.
But you know, I don’t like have anything like nicer wonderful to really say about them because it’s like the bottom of the the totem pole.
5:00
And then just like surprises me that, you know, money keeps spurting on it.
So.
It doesn’t.
It doesn’t, I mean, you know, again, we were talking about a franchise that really hasn’t come back that much in the most recent years.
5:16
However, they do, you know, we do keep discussing potentially a new TV series for the Friday the 13th series and that’s kind of going back, I think to like the, it’s trying to give a little origin story of Jason again, I, I guess I don’t, I don’t know.
5:36
However, you know, again, I feel like that’s still been, I don’t know.
It’s, it’s been in the works for a long time.
And I don’t know with all the rights issues that we’re ever going to get anything from Friday 13.
5:53
There’s just so many rights issues.
And I think that’s like telling of why we don’t have very many new Friday 13th movies is because they just don’t want to deal with the rights that go along with it.
It’s it’s very difficult like because we were talking about that on the screen episode, the way that some of these franchises could just be, you know, money makers.
6:13
They could just be printing money out if they were to come out with new movies in the franchise because it’s just such a, you know, it’s such a prospect and it’s such a got a cult following that you could just print money from making them as long as you do it right the first time.
6:29
Because because like we talked about too, there is that potential that you could pull a Halloween Kills or Halloween Ends and really destroy the the amount of goodwill that the the audience has for your for your movies.
6:45
So.
We’ll see the problem.
The problem with that was they made the money and then collectively over at Blum House, they had a Rian Johnson moment where they’re like, well, I can do anything and make it like it’s going to be this wonderful tour thing and that, you know, everyone’s like that.
7:02
That’s not what we want.
Got you.
It is funny, I think about when you do think about like all these properties that are so, you know, capitalized on and produced and like it’s brand and all.
Like again, like the idea especially like screams, like the past couple of screams, like 6:00 and 7:00, that’s not even about Ghostface.
7:24
It’s about the brand.
And to think about like half the people that they have writing or directing these things, like they have no interest at all in the shit.
They’re like, I thought it’d be really cool.
That’s like Superman won’t have a cake and he all kill people.
7:45
Yeah, I’m not saying that happened.
I’m just saying it’s just, you know, funny the, you know, the disconnect and I’m trying to make it something else, but that’s besides the point.
Anyway, we’re doing Friday the 13th, part six.
Yeah, I was going on tangent.
8:02
I got a couple of something.
To change it there, but Jason?
Lives.
Yeah.
Don’t think I’ve seen this one before.
Oh, OK.
So we’re getting in it.
Well, actually I should say, out of the ones that we covered previously, how many had you seen before?
I had seen I think previously if I remember correctly I could be wrong.
8:20
You’d have to re listen to the episodes.
I think I’ve seen the 1st.
The. 2nd Jason goes to Manhattan and Jason AXA then guys are the ones that I’ve seen because those are like I like the ones that I like caught, caught on TV.
8:42
There was a point in the mid 2000s, can’t remember which channel it was, but somebody was playing Jason X on like fucking repeat.
Feels like FX or something.
So you could.
It was inescapable and.
And I guess in and also so, you know, we we we mentioned the title, but how, how much of AI guess I celebrator, are you of Friday the 13th, the quote UN quote holiday or the the maybe not holiday.
9:16
It’s a strong word, not a federal.
No one, you know, no one’s making you take off work.
But the occasion.
How about that?
The occasion of Friday the 13th?
Are you a superstitious man?
Are you, you know, no, something that you avoid ladders or something?
9:33
Yes or something like in the what is it the Hey Arnold episode?
I think of the, you know, the bad luck, Hey.
Arnold Well, there’s that.
There’s that, and also the That is a good episode, yes, but also the Rocco episode where Philbert opens up the fortune cookie.
9:50
It says bad luck and misfortune will play your pathetic soul for all eternity and then all it’s like bad luck and like the Black Cats under a ladder and all this crap happens and he’s like, I’m a lucky guy.
I’m a lucky guy.
It’s funny.
No, I don’t care.
10:06
I did.
It means nothing to me so.
Gotcha.
Well, I don’t either.
I don’t really care and you know, it’s not something and again to this is a thing that I have struggled with is that IA lot of times when Friday 13th is coming up, I don’t even know what’s coming up.
10:27
Like, you know, it’s it used to be something and I don’t know if you’ve seen, but there’s like a whole Reddit that’s just like, is it Friday the 13th today?
And it’s just, you know, every day is no, no, no.
And then there’s that, you know, the one time in the blue moon where you get a Friday 13th is like, yes, that’s just a funny little nonsense subreddit, but.
10:47
We’re too.
We’re too busy looking at videos that have set up some Yes, Ronald Reagan is.
Still, that’s right.
That’s right.
Yeah.
But no, I’m not a, I’m not a, a Friday 13th enjoyer or someone who really goes out of the way on Friday 13th.
11:02
It’s just another day for me.
But I do try to to watch the Friday 13th movies at least sometimes on Friday 13th.
And that’s what I was saying, you know, in a previous episode, this occasion of Friday 13th Part 6, Jason Lives gave me the ability to watch the movie that I bought on Blu-ray.
11:23
I brought, I bought the whole Friday 13th box set collection on Blu-ray.
When Screen Factory released it, it was like probably like $200 and I didn’t really watch more.
Many of them, I haven’t really even taken them out of the cases.
I did do screenshots and everything, but we didn’t, I haven’t really watched them.
11:40
So it gave me the the occasion to actually watch it and enjoy my Blu-ray that I have sitting on the shelf up there, which is nice.
But yes, part 6 is Jason lives.
And I think that’s that’s something that comes up in the movie quite a bit because as we talked about in the last episode of, you know, with part 5, that one does not have Jason in it.
12:03
You know, Jason that that’s always been the the kind of the stand out difference in the series.
You know, especially considering with like Part 1 Friday 13th, you know, is not Jason, it’s his mother.
And then, you know, part 5 is not Jason either.
It’s the like the it’s Roy.
12:21
And so I think actually the idea is kind of sound.
It’s like, you know, it’s sort of like they tried to pull a Halloween there and get away from the idea.
I was just going to say it’s their it’s it’s their Halloween three season of the witch, but it’s missing.
12:40
But a lot safer, right?
It’s a, it’s a lot safer than season of the witch cause season of the witch was like, fuck everything else that came before.
They’re just going to go a completely different direction, at least in and that film, it treats it as though it’s basic.
It it it’s effectively Jason and everything but name and the blue mask.
12:59
And here, you know, again, I feel, I don’t know, I, I can’t quite remember, you know, I haven’t read reviews at the time.
Or if people were, you know, effectively doing their, you know, complaints on Twitter about, you know, from the 80s, obviously.
13:14
And so not Twitter, but like writing in letters to the editor or, you know, writing into Fangoria, like.
She’s got a check her 85, you know, Fancorian.
That’s right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That that part 5 was shit because it didn’t have a real Jason in it.
And it was, it was obvious that it wasn’t real Jason.
13:33
I don’t know the, you know, if that’s true, but Part 6 is trying to be a return to form, right?
That’s obvious from the fact that it’s called Jason Lives.
And, you know, they they were like, all right, maybe this didn’t work out.
13:48
We need to bring the supernatural mythic beast back.
And I think that’s very apparent as you watch the movie and we’ll talk about that.
But I did just want to set out the fact that Part 6 is a very unserious movie.
14:05
It is over the top silly.
And it seems to know that it’s being all of those things.
It in some ways, it signals it from the very beginning.
And so I think as we talked about the movie, we do need to take it in a different context in that this is very much more of a tongue in cheek.
14:27
Like, let’s get back to the basics of what worked with Friday 13th movies or what what seemed to work for most people, which is just camp counselors getting slaughtered in, you know, creative and gratuitous fashion.
So again, you’ve already mentioned you’ve never you’ve never really seen part 6 didn’t really stand out to you before.
14:49
Like we talked about the actual movie itself, though.
What are you know, how how do you feel about it in the midst of the other sequels that we’ve already covered?
You know, what does it does it stand out to you?
Is it does it seem better or worse than you remember the sequels before we actually, you know, like don’t don’t give specifics, but better or worse than what you remember the other movie?
15:12
See, I can’t because I don’t want to spoil that.
Oh, OK.
All right.
You don’t even want to.
Don’t even want to talk about.
I don’t.
Want a little?
Tidbit in the intro.
No, I don’t even.
I don’t want to.
All right, then.
You know what?
Let’s just move on.
Let’s go to the beer talk, OK?
That led me.
15:28
Where?
All right, let’s go to the Beer Talk.
We’ll switch to that because we got a lot to talk about with the movie, so we’ll just switch over to Beer Talk real quick.
Yeah, get back to the movie at hand where we can actually dive in.
So on today’s show, we actually have a special treat.
15:45
It’s one that we wanted to save for today.
We went to Feiden’s Brewing Company, which at this point, I think has become a pretty big name even outside of upstate New York.
You know, a lot of people do know it by name, know it by sight, probably know it by the classic logo, maybe not so much the new one.
16:05
We’re not even going to go there.
We’re not going to touch that.
But we did go to Fight insurance last Friday for a for a new release drop.
And we enjoyed a few beers and we had some food there.
We hadn’t been there in a while, spent a little bit since new management took over and sort of and shitified some of the things about it that, you know, people liked a lot and that I think they’re moving away from that again.
16:27
But.
Oh my God, on their website we can get it shipped to her house.
Yeah, you can do that now in New York State, but it’s going to be like a $20 surcharge for the shipping.
So it’s almost not worth it.
You know, it’s a dollar drive for us.
But but yes, in New York City, I do live in New York State, you can’t get shipped.
16:43
You can expensive, but you can get it shipped and now they only sell 4 packs too.
So you can only get 4 packs.
They’re very expensive.
I just let you just let you have the option.
I agree, but I don’t run a brewery so I don’t.
17:02
Know, I know, but still, just just be like, hey, you know, you haven’t had that Jasper yet.
You know it’s true.
Throw in an additional one for $6 is is what I would do like, you know, if you’re make them order at least one four pack, but then you’re like add, add a single for another $6 or something, you know, something like that.
17:20
But I don’t run a brewery, so I don’t know the logistics.
Maybe there was some like exceptional costs involved.
I doubt a single.
Don’t stop trying to defend them.
But anyway, we went there, we had a nice time and and we brought home a four pack to have on the show, which is a newer beer that I don’t think it was for the release because they’d had it out before.
17:44
But it is one that we’d never had before.
And it is part of their new lineup of beers that they’ve been making since that changeover because it has the new label and the new logo and everything else, which some of the the classic beers don’t have yet.
So this one’s called A Murder of Crows.
18:01
It’s kind of goes along with the Phiden’s new seeming obsession with birds because they have a couple of new releases too, with Troon with the wild, the Bird Wildlife Foundation, and they have like owls on the cans and stuff.
18:19
So they’re someone’s going through a bird obsession as we get into the spring season.
Yeah, put a bird on it and it works.
It works.
It truly does.
Before they put flowers on it, and that’s probably a Portlandius thing as well, just throw some flowers on it.
But now, now they’re putting birds on it.
18:36
So anyway, it works.
And this one’s called A Murder of Crows.
Very Moody looking can artwork, you know, as you’d expect from a a name like A Murder of Crows.
Which is ruined by their new logo.
18:54
It’s true, the new logo is not not great.
I mean the can’t I do love the can.
I’m going to keep it and say it to the collection, but it’s just funny because I was like the old logo would be fine, but now with the new one and it’s big, bold, like it just was like fine.
It’s company.
Like I just read it in a Andy Rickster voice like blood.
19:12
Go ask the Empire.
You have to wonder too how much they actually end up saving by making a label that has a fucking axe cut out of it.
Like, that itself seems like it would be obnoxiously expensive to just, you know, like, yes, it’s a cool, cool idea, cool design.
19:28
I just know.
Wow, yeah.
That’s like you.
Just noticed.
That ordering the labels and being like, we got to stick them on here just right to make the axe and like that seems like really annoying.
Maybe they come with an axe on there.
Yeah.
19:44
And they put, you know, peel it off.
But.
Yeah, that’s the thing.
It’s.
Just I just noticed.
That so thank you so much more involved now you know, like nice touch, but very involved anyway to the beer at hand.
This is a triple IPA, 10 1/2% and it’s a it’s a really solid beer from the, the, the New England style variety, the haziness that fightings is really known for.
20:16
I think it is, you know, like a lot of people started to talk about, did quality of finance go down because of the new management and the new changeovers and stuff.
If this is a new brew, new beer, I wouldn’t really say the quality’s gone down.
I think it tastes still really good.
20:32
This has Citra, Mosaic and Matuka hops.
They got the Matuka.
You get the Matuka.
Well, say yeah, big.
You know, big.
Matuka, I will say that again, you know that I’ve been feeling quite a bit.
20:49
We got a couple new beers there.
I’m really having a hard time sometimes distinguishing the difference between a lot of them in terms of taste.
Yes, you can taste somewhat of a different hot varietal, but I do have a you know, a lot of times it really boils down to is it very citrusy?
21:09
Is it very haze forward?
Is it very Yeah, Rodney.
And then and and for most part with the Fiden’s beers of the all of these, it’s check, check, check.
You know, you’ve you’ve got it all.
And at a certain point, I do think that the all the hop ridals and all the different, the beers that they’re making, again, it’s sort of blends into like they’re all really good.
21:34
They’re all, you know, they really have this nice mouth, pillowy mouth feel very, you know, hop forward, very flavorful and hazy, but still staying kind of Sammy, especially because a lot of them do use the same varietal of hops.
21:53
In a lot of times you’ll see maybe just one or two changes to the the type of hops that are used.
So I’m not saying I think I’m murder of crows is really great.
It has a very strong bodied flavor to it certainly does taste like a triple IPA.
22:08
It’s on the sweeter side.
Definitely feels very hop forward, very hazy and very, you know, very delicious.
Just kind of blends in with some of their other releases in my opinion.
How about you?
No, I like it a lot.
22:26
And as you know, if you listen to our show and the episodes that we have done Eddie Fight insurance on, especially at Napa, I mean, they’re always great.
And I would say when people were talking about has the quality gone down, it’s like the one thing that I would say during the new transition that’s been going on now for like 2 1/2 years, no, the beer quality has never dropped.
22:52
They do like it a lot.
I think it’s very good, just like all their other hazies, but as in triples and such.
But as you were saying to, there is a same meanness quality to having them, especially I think if you’re drinking them on your own, like, you know, after you know, just and he doesn’t like oh, like it like it doesn’t like make something feel new.
23:15
It’s not a is it a bad thing?
It depends on like whether or not you appreciate the style because again, it’s like the same thing a lot of people would say about Sloop.
We love Sloop.
We do it all the time out here.
But you know what a Sloop hazy IPA is a Sloop hazy IPA, doesn’t matter what label they throw on it.
23:31
They had the same hops and slight differences to them.
I don’t know the nuances to like the flavors.
Maybe some asshole who went to the you know school for consider around a bit news.
But I do like it a lot.
23:48
I think it’s really good.
It’s got a big blood orange taste to it.
You get a big hit of pine lot of rosin at the end, you know, very it tastes like you got the rosin bag right in your mouth.
But it’s as you said, nice pillowy body, very hazy if you pour and it looks like, you know, orange juice with a lot of pulp.
24:14
But I like it.
Like I said, if you like those beers, you’re going to like this.
So if you’re in the area, check them out because not a lot of places make you know this level of quality of IPA, snipers and triples.
24:35
So, right, yeah, no, they’re, they’re still doing a great job.
I mean, I’m not, I’m not concerned with their their quality going down.
I think that it’s still, you know, very high.
And I like to now that they’re more experimental, at least at the, you know, on tap.
24:51
Like when I was there, we went there on Friday, last Friday.
Now we get food.
But also too, like, first beer I ordered, I didn’t get like, a big IPA.
They had a Creed whale.
You don’t ever do fucking Creed whale.
So it’s like, I gotta try the Creed whale.
25:07
That’s like, yeah, that’s damn good Creed whale.
So, you know, they’re still trying new things and stuff.
And the food is good.
I got fried gnocchi.
Ryan got a nice smash burger.
That’s right.
25:22
Yeah.
So they don’t have the arcade machines anymore.
So I can’t be my nephew and NBA Jam mercilessly so anymore.
So I’m very upset about that.
Fix that and you get you’ll get the 10 out of 10 fines.
25:41
Yeah, check them out.
We got we’ve done a kind of episodes of their beer so.
That’s right.
All right, so let’s talk.
Friday 13th, Part 6.
Jason lives now part. 6 or or is.
25:57
It the.
Is it Jason, I was just saying, or is it Jason lives?
Friday the 13th, Part 6.
No, no, I don’t think it’s stylized like that.
It is on the poster and and.
Yeah, yeah, I don’t.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it could be.
And on the on the title card, it’s very.
26:14
Undetermined what what the official title is.
So, you know, as we, as we discussed, you know, this, this is sort of, I mean, it’s pretty clear immediately when the film picks up that the movie is really going to give Jason front and center and get him back to, you know, to doing the things that he does, which is murdering people.
26:36
Because the opening finds Tommy, who, you know, in in part 5 was in a mental institution, you know, which again, I think we talked about it in that episode, but like really poorly contrived mental institution to bring guy back to a place where there’s basically another camp near Crystal Lake.
26:53
That’s like, it’s just not a good fit for him considering his past trauma.
But in this episode episode, in this film, it finds Tommy, at least at the beginning of the movie, like rushing to where he knows Jason’s been buried from Part 4.
27:10
And, you know, he’s thinking about how he murdered him and killed him, and he should be dead in his grave.
So he opens up the grave and lo and behold, there’s a moldering Jason in the grave.
And you know, sort of the 1st.
Good use say sorry.
Good use of moldering.
That’s right, I listen to death metal so.
27:27
I have.
A great, a great handle on all things decaying and and debt.
And so, you know, again, I think that this idea is kind of interesting that oh, wait a second, we were able to kill Jason.
You know, when they said it was, you know, the final chapter, they were right.
27:45
It was Jason was dead.
And, you know, and the, the thing that brings about Tommy’s downfall is that he can’t just leave well enough alone at the, you know, this opening sequence, even before the title card hits, you get Tommy opening the grave and there’s this electric shock from the lightning that’s happening.
28:06
The lightning storm is going on.
And it’s, it’s signals this idea that like, hey, in this world, Frankenstein’s revivification model of lightning to a lightning rod in a, in a dead body, it actually works.
Like it’s not, it’s not crazy science.
28:21
It’s just that’s just how everything happens in this movie.
Didn’t that also happen to Michael Myers?
And five?
Yeah, probably.
Or is it 4?
I can’t even.
Yeah, one of those.
It just works, OK.
It’s just, you know, horror movie.
Science.
28:39
Yeah, it’s the techno Babble.
Exactly.
You know, what’s great too, is he’s doing it with, like, his orderly.
I don’t know if it is, but like, Tommy’s just got some friend.
Like, you know, we don’t go open up Jason’s coffin, you know, see what’s going on.
28:54
And the fact too, that they gave Jason that even, you know, you know, he gave the town of Crystal Lake so much guff that they had to rename the town to something else.
And but they still buried him in the cemetery and not like, you know, firing his ashes on a rocket up into space or something.
29:18
So you know.
I know I it’s a yeah.
And you would think too, maybe you’d be like an unmarked grave.
Like why like.
No, that, no, no, they, they needed to give him like proper burial, everything they’re like, you know.
This is the Reagan.
This is the Reagan era.
29:34
Can’t have, you know, you know, satanic things going on.
But I do like this opening because it does signal this like almost ridiculous way that the film is going to keep going through.
It’s, you know, the progress of this movie, which is, you know, it’s not really well established in reality.
29:53
It’s it’s a sort of a goofy movie that knows that it is.
And even like from the very beginning when you get that like sort of James Bond esque opening with Jason, like turning, you know, to the camera in his own eye and then slicing, you know, in the James Bond.
30:10
Style.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And not only that, but like how bad the blood looks being sliced in the in the credit sequence.
I love that too.
It looks like, almost looks like like a rag or something that’s like being thrown against the the credits.
30:27
But yeah, the film really seems to know what kind of franchise that it’s in, especially by the 6th film in the franchise.
And I think it leans into that.
I think that it, it makes a conscious decision and, and, and again to it, it probably helps to have a director, a writer director who is, you know, knows what he’s going for and is completely fine with leaning into that because Tom McLaughlin both writes and directs this movie, which is not super common for a Friday 13th movie or a a horror movie in general.
31:06
You know, most of the time and these sorts of franchises, you might have a staff writer come in and just be like, Hey, can you RIP us off a new, you know, sequel in the this series?
And they would come in and do it.
And, you know, they have a specific director in mind or somebody that they, you know, has been trying to do come up through the ranks and they, they give it to him.
31:25
In this case, it’s kind of interesting that Tom McLaughlin, they, they brought in and they just, you know, he kind of is able to do both writing and directing credits.
And I think it it makes sense when you see how the film plays out that it’s very tongue in cheek.
It really leans into this very, very cartoon.
31:45
What did you say?
I said Campion.
Cartoon yeah, yeah, I I think like.
Very, very like Looney Tunes, Tex Avery style, you know.
Yeah.
And what what do you think about that?
Like do you think that works for the movie?
That’s the, that’s the best part.
32:02
This is like the definition.
This is why I don’t want to show my hand.
This film is the definition of schlock that works.
It’s schlock.
It knows it’s schlock.
It’s not trying to be anything other than schlock.
And it leans into it and it leans into it into a good way.
32:19
So you’re having fun.
Like, is this a good movie?
No, but it is incredibly fun.
It no, like it makes everything into like a nice joke and the fact that it’s you know, compared to like something like Friday the 13th part 5, you know, where it’s like it comes off as sloppy and can’t be for the wrong reasons here.
32:47
You know, they’re, you can tell they’re really leaning into it because like, it’s not just like stupid jokes and then like a brutal death, like somebody gets their head slammed into a tree and killed and makes a :), you know, So no, this is, this is the best part that the film is like cohesive enough to know what it is and what it wants to be and it actually makes it a incredibly fun film to watch.
33:17
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I think that the film’s lean in is something that some of the other movies in this the franchise are missing, right?
A lot of them really do try to take it, you know, as seriously as you can with a supernatural being running around with a machete.
33:33
You know, it’s so again, there’s always that level of campiness, but I do think for the most part, the movies themselves take themselves pretty seriously, whereas I think Part 6 is really open to just experimenting with a more comical approach.
33:50
And I think one of the things that stands out to me about Part 6 too, is that it’s not really trying very hard to deviate from a very particular formula that doesn’t even really try to develop characters that well.
You know, it’s it’s it’s almost like there’s very little plot to this.
34:06
It was the pitch is basically Jason comes back to life, terrorizes another, you know, area of the town.
We’ve got more camp counselors and Tommy’s running around.
And, you know, the the sheriff is obsessed with him being the the culprit here.
34:23
And that’s bad.
That’s bad about it.
Like, you know, and again, another part of that that the film leans into is that, you know, if if fans have been following the series so far, you already know who Tommy is.
So the film doesn’t really need to actively develop Tommy because you’ve already seen him in two other movies.
34:43
So it’s sort of uses that idea like we don’t need to do any character development, even though this guy is different Tommy than the last Tommy.
Like it doesn’t matter.
We’re we’re still going to just like, pretend this is the Tommy that, you know, from all these other movies and, you know, we won’t develop him.
35:02
And so the really the only thing that the film focuses on is Jennifer Cook’s character, Megan, who, you know, again, is sort of this very stereotypical soul.
Yeah, Harley, Harley type character who is, you know, effectively like, I’m not daddy’s little girl anymore.
35:22
You know, my, my dad wants me to be a nice little, you know, lady and I’m not.
Being a whore’s womb got mom killed.
Some say it was, you know, the guy she was fucking with.
Others say it was my dad.
And anger.
And it’s funny because it’s almost like this film is leaning into the opposite of this idea of the sex craze.
35:43
Teens that are are murdered in slashers.
You know, I mean, that still happens to a certain extent because we do get that one sequence of the two teens having sex in the camper, you know, to some song.
I don’t even know what that song was, but apparently it’s 10 minutes long.
36:03
So the idea.
Of sex being never stood a chance blasting.
No, that’s right.
That’s right.
So the idea of sex being part of the scope of being murdered by Jason is not out of the question, but it does sort of bring up another Ave. that, you know, she is a very capable person who is also somewhat sex crazed in this movie.
36:25
And she ends up being OK.
Like, you know, it’s not the usual final girl that you would get from a slasher movie in most scenarios.
The problem is that like, she’s like, of course she’s too sex crazed.
36:41
She drives a Camaro.
You know the only thing she’s missing is like blasting 38 Special out of that like or Molly Hatchet.
I don’t know.
They do have Alice Cooper playing quite.
A bit.
That’s not the same.
That’s not the same.
You need one of the like the bands of the Three Headed Monster, Molly Hatchet 38 Special or the Georgia Satellites.
37:02
How about the David Bowie record that you see in the background there?
I, I, you know what I know You said be on the lookout.
I didn’t.
See, you didn’t even catch it.
Yeah, no, it’s in that one scene where the two women camp counsellors are, they’re talking about this one like very convoluted card game they want to play where it’s like.
37:21
Oh, they’re going to make Jason.
Beat the jokes.
And then the camp councillors are the the the the Queen and the Queen.
And then the then the little kids are like the the number.
Cards is like I can’t like I can’t even follow right now.
How are you expect to play this game?
Love it, but yeah.
37:39
That’s where they need, that’s where they need Crispin Glover to come out and show him how to play.
Exactly, I do think that like I I like this idea.
Those like trying to circumvent the usual final girl and actually it it really does seem like Jennifer Cook is having a really good time playing Megan.
37:57
Like she can’t even stop smirking in every scene.
It’s just she has a sort of like shit eating smirk that she’s like up to no good.
And I like that, you know, I, I think it adds like a fun, you know, again, how many movies can you watch where a person is, you know, like your standard, very typical final girl who’s like so unfun and so serious and you’re just like, can you just like have fun let loose for a second?
38:26
You know, I think that the idea.
That’s a different movie.
Yeah, I think that the idea of having this more open and, you know, sexually aggressive final girl is an interesting idea.
38:45
And like, there’s no better scene than when you have her stuffing Tommy’s head into her crotch when they’re driving away from a roadblock and she’s like, oh, yeah, that’s that’s what I like.
And then and then says oh, and then like.
With a straight he tries to he tries to pop his head up and she shoves it down.
39:01
She’s like there’s a hairy turn up ahead and I’m like, Oh my God, what kind of what kind of, you know, lingo are we using here?
It’s great, but I like that it is again, I think the film leans into this comedic sense.
39:19
And like you even sent, you know, you can definitely see, you know, they don’t use it, but you can definitely see sort of like the the Three Stooges esque or even like the Looney Tune style, like background music being played to some of the things that are happening.
39:38
And it wouldn’t really be out of place.
All all the film is missing is like Jason going, you know, when it gets like hit with something like Oh no, and.
I mean, they even, they even kind of like Tom McLaughlin is almost in on the joke too, because like the first, you know, that one part where they bring in the the paintballers.
40:02
And there’s like most literal like boom.
Boom boom boom.
Boom.
Well, you know, like, sort of like very goofy trombone music in the background as they’re traipsing through the woods on a corporate retreat.
It’s, you know, again, it’s, it’s, it knows going on.
40:18
Paintball for a corporate retreat.
I don’t know.
I mean, it seems like this is the thing that they routinely do.
But yeah, I don’t this, you know, this is before they had these sort of islands that people in the island treats that.
40:34
People that you would disappear to, Yeah.
Yeah, I, I, I do.
I I’m not high enough in corporate to have ever participated.
You you need to put more time into your LinkedIn profile.
That’s why you haven’t, you haven’t like made enough connections on LinkedIn for you to be.
40:51
I haven’t been able to do a trust fall into my boss’s arms, you know I do.
I do love that like that like they’re like, oh, it’s just a man’s game.
This is more that don’t see lady shoots him and it’s like the CEO or member of the board and she’s like buck up.
41:08
Stop being such a bitch.
And he’s just sitting there like fucking women ruin this game, you know, like he’s just pouting and bitching and she’s like 2 feet behind him like, you know, so like, yeah, you may beat me, but you’re still a stupid bitch.
Be home making me a sandwich gun kitchen and.
41:26
I think the other thing too, that this film gets right is the whole idea that the sheriff is just some very surly and, you know, asshole type figure that is ready to blast anyone’s head off that walks into the, you know, the office.
The first part when Tommy runs into the Sheriff’s Office and he’s got his gun, like load cocked and loaded ready to shoot anybody.
41:48
It’s like this is a public office, man, what are you doing?
Like, you know, ready to shoot anybody that walks through the door.
That’s Ron, Jeremy’s brother playing.
That’s what I said.
I mean, he probably this, I don’t know, this he.
Has like the hair, David.
He exact.
Yeah, he’s got the hair and the mustache that would look like.
42:08
Who are you?
Oh, I’m Ron’s brother.
I’m Terry.
It it would not have surprised me to see his IMDb and see like listed as alternate names him in, you know, 80’s porn.
He definitely looks like the type of guys like, you know, CEO, but he’s you know, he’s looking for more, you know, he’s definitely, you know, that the whole mustache and sort of like, yeah, you know, he’s he’s got like a, you know, male pattern baldness going on there, but it’s still trying to keep that long mullet, you know, in the back.
42:42
He has that very particular 80’s porn star look.
But alas, he didn’t do 80’s porn.
He’s only done he he did like a lot of of not a lot of, but he’s done some soap operas ’cause he was in 10 episodes of General Hospital and he was also a an arson investigator in the Young and the Restless, but done a lot of TV.
43:10
You’re right.
It’s great, though.
I love, I love the look it’s and I love the way that it gets to sheriff right.
Like he’s just so unnecessarily standoffish about everything.
Like when it’s especially how they he comes to the conclusion, like even after his daughter’s like, oh, those, those camp counselors are cut up into multiple pieces.
43:32
What time was that?
I was about 8:50.
Well, at 850, Tommy was with me.
So it couldn’t have been him.
And he’s like put him in jail anyway.
I don’t We care about facts and times, time frames.
You know, this is great.
It’s like it’s this is the one of the things that the film gets accurate is that.
43:49
He did not go to the John Saxon school of how to be a good cop.
That’s right.
But you know, the movie does have a lot of references to the horror stuff, like his name is Sheriff Garris, right?
So Mick Garris the the one gas station is called Carlos, something merchant merchant use or something like that.
44:13
And Tommy’s like, I don’t know, it’s something like Karloff’s station or something.
He’s like, yeah, no wonder you can’t remember that name doesn’t even make sense.
Now people would accuse an AI of making that name up.
Like what the fuck does that mean?
I’m.
Pretty sure that’s the same general.
I’m pretty sure that’s the same general store that’s on Randy Travis’s first sound Storms of Life.
44:32
That’s right.
That’s right.
You know the Randy’s standing in front of.
Yeah, So I mean, it’s one thing I miss and love, sorry to interrupt, but that’s one thing I miss.
And love is like in 80s movies, these like gas stations from a bygone era, just like, well, whether they’re in business or not.
44:51
And think about it.
And it’s like I’m like, how much Like how many of those were actually still around?
Like, you know, like.
Yeah, where you just have a guy bringing his hands into a handkerchief because he just, you know, done some random oil change or something at at 4:00 in the morning.
45:09
I love those in like, in like movies too.
And he’s like, what is this?
What is this small town mechanic doing out here at 4:00 in the morning?
Just randomly working on cars for some reason.
Love it.
Yeah, your radiators.
45:29
Again, to this movie, I don’t know if this is like rose colored glasses, but you know, watching a movie like this from the 80s is sort of refreshing because again, this movie is 87 minutes long.
It’s not here to sell you some ridiculous plot line, right?
45:45
It it recognizes what it’s doing.
It’s a fucking movie about a fucking supernatural guy who is chopping guys, camp counselors up for no reason.
And there’s no real like again to the film kind of almost forgets that it’s at like a camp, Crystal Lake style camp.
46:03
It doesn’t even really try to explain that.
It’s just like, yeah, the lakes over there somewhere.
You know, it’s like, you know, because at at this point in the movie series, 6 movies in, you know, you’re around Crystal Lake.
Who’s who’s the asshole selling that?
Like, you know, Camp Crystal Lake to somebody.
46:22
Now we’re going to call it Camp Forest Green now.
And then also to letting like these teens who are suspect of age, I’m going to guess like 16 to 18, but like, and then they’re overseeing 5 year olds.
And stuff like an insurance companies nightmare.
46:41
No, actually.
Or wet drinking.
It depends.
Yeah, it depends.
Is it, is it the camp insurance company?
Because they’re going to be shitting bricks.
But if it’s the, you know, if it’s the other person’s insurance company, they’re like, we got a case here.
You’ve got a, you know, kid goes missing, kid drowns.
46:59
It’s pretty easy to pin it on unsuspecting camp counselors.
Who are I do love that they have like these just unwitting kids.
Unwitting kids just like, yeah, a choice, a scary man over here.
And then like, like they just keep her going back to it.
47:15
And because it’s still the 80s so, you know, like Jason’s not going to murder.
Yeah, it’s but like.
You know, like they’re constantly like in the.
Background.
I’m like, is he dad?
Really, you know, this really is going to come.
The best line is when they’re hiding from Jason under the bed.
47:31
The boys are and this one got kid goes to the other like So what did you want to be when you Oh, I was I was dying last year and like it’s like, oh shit, we’re going to die.
So what you want to do?
47:48
Yeah, yeah.
It’s just, you know, and again, like you said, there’s really no danger to them and it’s sort of keeps them outside of the day.
And like I was saying to you, off off air, the film has to kind of keep cutting back to the kids to make sure that you even remember you’re at camp because a lot of it actually takes place outside of camp.
48:07
You know, it takes place either at the sheriff’s station or on the roads around it or something like that.
You know, a lot of not, not a lot of it is actually at camp.
So it caught the film constantly has to check in with the kids.
Like, Yep, they’re still there.
You know, we’re technically we’re still at camp here, even though it’s not really a big facet of the movie at that point, which, you know, again, I think makes sense because how much can you really, how often can you have Jason keep going back to a camp?
48:34
It’s just, you know, it gets old.
I think that they’re doing what they can to really offset that.
And I think the movie does a pretty good job of trying to live outside of the normal franchise stereotypes.
It’s again, like I said, it’s it’s not really trying hard to be a different type of story.
48:52
It’s just effectively Jason comes back and he’s just murdering people and it recognizes like, what do you want to see?
You want to see Jason doing ridiculous stunts and and killing people in over the top ways that you haven’t seen before.
49:07
So here’s the sheriff getting broken in half like Bane.
You know, with Batman, he’s like breaking his back and literally like turning him into a mattress.
Just say I say.
Just imagine Jason like I almost break the bar.
Exactly.
49:24
Yeah.
We’re like, you know, twisting a woman’s neck all the way around until her head pops off.
And it’s just like, you know, these really outlandish things that, you know, the film recognizes this is what you want to see the murders and violence and and, you know, we’re not going to waste a lot of time on doing character stuff.
49:46
What do you think about Harry Manfredini’s soundtrack?
You know, this man has been around.
He’s been they use him route the Jason the, you know, the Friday 13th franchise for.
It’s all over the place.
It’s like a mix of like, you know, the Jeff, Jeff, Jeff Papa, but then like they, they, they think like flight of the bumble bees like.
50:12
It’s certainly not as as atmospheric as the earlier Jason’s, right?
Like like it’s not like you said, it does have the, but it doesn’t like use that as sort of like this Moody build.
50:30
It’s more just like this MIDI synth thing that he’s got going on.
And I said it sounds like Mannheim Steamroller, you know, outside of Christmas time.
If you, if Mannheim Steamroller is like, you know, it’s, it’s very animated.
50:46
And again, I think it works.
And then not only that, but it also uses a pretty like a Hard Rock soundtrack because it’s got a lot of Alice Cooper in it.
Yeah, half the half the songs are just Alice Cooper tracks.
Yeah, funny to think of in hindsight because with the kids are having sex and it’s that Alice Cooper song.
51:05
I was like, oh jeez.
And you’re like, yeah, that was Alice Cooper.
I’m like, was it really?
And I was like, oh jeez, I’m like, he’s just fucking everywhere in the baby.
So that comes to like horror films, whether I remember just giving music like yeah, here’s the song, here’s a song.
51:20
My record deal says I have to do 2 songs a year ago.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, what do you think about?
Jason also too, they say sorry but they did lean in too with like the whole like teenage Frank and Stewart and so like Jason, Jason is a teenage.
51:38
Frank, he literally is reanimated because of the the way that he’s brought back to life.
I think.
Yeah.
I mean, at least they lean into that theme.
I think it’s yeah.
So I was going to say, what do you what do you think about Jason in this movie?
It’s fun.
Bring back the the, you know, the way that you think of Jason, especially after like part 5.
52:00
Or is there a noticeable difference in how they are playing him?
No, it’s still it’s a noticeable difference because like before, like the kills would be more brutal And Jason, like I said, the one of the reasons why I’ve never found like the movies to be that enjoyable is because I don’t think like Jason’s that like in sting of a killer because he’s just a brick shithouse that you know, is this immovable object and unstoppable force.
52:31
So it doesn’t really make the slasher part that, you know, scary because you know, he’s like getting shot 7 times and he’s still fucking just blunt plowing on him through.
Granted, here it would make a hell of a lot more sense if like this was the first film for that to happen because he’s beneficially dead and you know, God gave him that gift with the lightning.
52:57
But you know, he’s fun.
Like it’s it’s fun.
I don’t think like Jason has it like his presence or characters.
Really.
I don’t write anything into I think more the fun kills that he commits and the variety of how he kills people here is what’s fun about it.
53:16
The slasher part, because like again like I don’t find Jason interesting, is a slasher film.
Yeah, and that’s the thing too that I think actually works pretty well here, is that the films not really leaning into the horror element.
Like it’s not trying to make it scary.
It recognizes that like seeing this hulking man just walk around breaking people, it’s not necessarily scary in the same sense as like, you know, an atmospheric spooky paranormal movie or something like that.
53:44
So it’s not really, really trying that hard to make it creepy or scary.
You know, there’s no like stalking really that you expect from like this sort of like the stalker lineage of of slasher movies.
You know, it doesn’t really lean into that, the POB perspective or anything.
54:01
Instead, it shows Jason like a giant orangutan standing on a fucking blown up trailer.
You know, it’s like it doesn’t, It recognizes that that’s not like the scariness is not really what’s drawing people to Jason anymore.
54:17
It’s, you know, it’s the obvious fact that he’s a supernatural being that can’t be stopped.
And it’s just sort of fun to watch.
And I think too, you know, the the idea is like this, this Jason again, there’s been a many, many people that play Jason.
And one of like the most popular ones that you think of is Kane hotter, but he played later in the the actual series.
54:35
This one’s CJ Graham, who not, you know, did this Jason and none, no, no other ones.
But you know, I think again, at the end of the day, you know, in this movie, I don’t think Jason actually has much of A character too much.
Sometimes the movies try to imbue Jason with a, a certain personality or character based on how they show him.
54:55
I I don’t really think this film even attempts it.
It’s just like, no, here, here’s a, here’s a entity and you know, he’s just like running.
Let him go, let him go.
Call call everyone from the That’s right, the picture.
It really doesn’t, you know, Doesn’t try hard to do anything with that, which again, I think is the right call.
55:15
I think it’s this movie has it leans into the the right ideas, the stuff that really makes it work.
I think, you know, especially considering the fact that this is the sixth film in the series, I find it refreshingly fun to watch.
55:32
You know, it doesn’t overstay it’s welcome.
It’s, you know, nice truncated version of what you’re expecting and it does it pretty well.
And you know, there’s not really much more that you can ask for, especially this late in this in the franchise.
It just gives you what more of what you want and that’s.
55:48
Yeah, which which is funny to think about because usually by the six film you’re like this franchise use a 20 year break, you’re just coming off of a new beginning, right?
And like a year later, like here’s 6 and it’s like, wow, that’s like, you know what a fun rejuvenation this is.
56:04
Like it’s a total breath of fresh air.
But no, you’re like you said, he’s just there to be like the force does.
Like I don’t have anything, you know, I don’t in the Jason being Jason like aspect for me.
56:26
Like you said, though, it’s just, you know, it is what it is.
Yeah.
You know, Tommy has no one to blame but himself.
He just stayed in his good old sanitary room.
There’s.
56:41
Never a hand.
About this.
Yeah, right.
It’s it’s, it’s his own fault for taking things into his own hands.
Who’s worse?
I mean, well, who’s worse or better?
You decide.
I’ll let you figure that one out.
Who’s?
Tommy Jarvis or Doctor Loomis?
56:58
Yeah, I mean, both in some ways.
Go down their their their enemies, right?
I feel like Tommy is probably not as bad as Doctor Loomis.
I mean, Tommy has has trauma and you know, who knows?
57:15
Like what if the film had leaned into more of this idea of like, well, you know what, Tommy’s a little bored right now.
You know, like he he feels like he’s has nothing to live for with no Jason, You know, pursuing him is sort of like that whole Zenigata Lupon thing of like, you know, what if I didn’t have my arch nemesis here?
57:34
So I feel like.
Thank you.
Thank, thank, thank you.
Just the reference, just yeah, thank you.
I’ll take the.
I think Doctor Loomis is worse from that.
Regard, but he’s older, he’s older and more he’s older and more crazier, you know, like he’s you know, he’s already been super driven mad, you know, you know with that.
57:56
No, no.
Yeah, that’s true.
They’re trying to warn poor Paul the evils that lie ahead.
And Paul just near the seer in the vent.
Look, what are you talking about, man?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, what do you, what do you think about the ending?
58:11
Actually, we didn’t talk about that, but where they bring Jason back to, you know, the lake to where, you know, they they basically call it his home.
He’s he’s home now.
Well, OK, so it’s it’s a fun set up and like everything that happens.
58:28
But First off, they’re like Tommy goes, we have to bring him to the place where he died, Crystal Lake.
He didn’t die in Crystal Lake.
He lived.
Track a bunch of other fucking people underneath the washroom.
So slow on your plane right there, asshole to the man who’s shrugging off bullets left and right, slugs and everything.
58:51
Oh yeah.
If I just put this fucking chain around them in this rock that looks like it could be a little heavy, it’s not super heavy.
Because if it was super heavy, you know, the boat would be fucking sinking ass over tea kettle into the water.
That’s going to do it.
59:07
We’re just going to chain Amanda.
Like he’s just going to stay in the water.
Like it’s cement shoes.
You know, the idea is just preposterously stupid.
I mean, granted, the film is preposterously stupid in a fun way.
59:24
Well, like just it just seems so.
I wasn’t like, you know, pissy about that.
I was just like, yeah, really.
That’s kind of stupid.
But like, I would like, you know, didn’t, doesn’t Take Me Out of the film because, again, it’s fun but enough.
But like, it is a stupid idea.
And it’s funny too, because like the whole tension, he’s like Tommy’s like sitting on the boat and he’s like holding, you know, the chain, like kind of like going like a Fiji, Fiji, Fiji, like the guy from, you know, Deuce Bigalow, like EVG waiting for Jason and like Jason like.
1:00:00
Fucking.
You know you know pranks him like 2 times and you know is able to drag him underwater too.
I just find it funny that Jason didn’t break away from like his water, like his kryptonite, like powerful under here anymore.
1:00:19
And also what makes that whole bit really funny too, is the constant going back and checking with the kids, like Megan and the kids sitting there like, oh, is he OK?
And like, you know, Jason slowly walking towards Tommy because he’s like, you want me?
1:00:37
You like like and you think about it too, Like why would Jason really be that give a shit about Tommy Jarvis?
He’s just a kid that like he didn’t get to kill.
Like the song, Like I don’t feel like I mean, I can’t remember the past like four and three, but like it seems like what makes him special?
1:00:57
It’s not nothing.
So like when Megan was yelling he should just snap her back and then Jason after him something.
But you know, it’s fun and off and ends up with Tommy and Megan survive again, Jason being left a lot to rot underwater so.
1:01:18
Yeah, I mean, I think it’s an interesting idea.
I think like in terms of these types of movies, you’re always kind of looking for a way to end the big bad, especially considering the fact that he’s supernatural.
So I think like chaining him to the bottom of the lake is an interesting idea that kind of works, you know, returning to the the area that he died in, or at least where this all started.
1:01:42
You know, the chaining to the end to the bottom of the lake is sort of like this nice easy end point where it’s like you may not be dead, but at least he’s stuck there, which I kind of like, you know, the the idea that like you can’t really kill him, but you can at least, you know, slow him down for a while.
1:02:00
So I think like that’s makes sense because a lot of times you think about how to how do they try to end these movies where the the killer sort of supernatural is like, let’s just blow them up.
Just blow them.
You know, they don’t really rely on that.
So I like, I like that quite a bit.
You know, I think I think that makes sense to to do that.
And, and I like the fact too, that it sort of reiterates some of the ideas from the original movie where it’s like almost does the thing that you’re expecting from the requels and reboots now, where it’s like callbacks to the movie where, you know, he jumps out of the lake into the boat and stuff like that.
1:02:31
Kind of a nice like sort of precursor to the requils and stuff like that that that you get now.
I thought that’s I thought that was kind of interesting, you know, especially considering I haven’t seen this movie in a while.
It’s nice to watch it with fresh eyes and just kind of, you know, take in what it does.
1:02:48
Think it works pretty well.
And again, for 87 minutes, it’s sort of like a breath of fresh air compared to something like Scream, where it takes like, you know, 2-2 hours to get to your, you know it.
There was No 10.
There was No 10 minute intro to preface the film that you already purchased.
1:03:03
That’s right.
That’s right.
So no, I didn’t like you said it is.
I just find it funny because it’s like he’s supernatural, but at the very end all of a sudden he’s like just having a gentle tussle on the boat with Tommy, like, you know, not snapping his neck or anything.
1:03:19
I was like all of a sudden like, Oh no, I have water on me.
I can’t.
I can’t move.
But no, it’s a.
That’s right all.
Right.
And fun.
Fun enough for that ending.
So we got to we got to rate this movie.
Hold on.
1:03:34
Oh, you got one more thing.
OK.
Oh yeah?
What’d you think of Dampy the Grave Digger?
He’s great.
I think that’s a job that you should take on.
I know fucking pounding Scotch and sweat.
I love the nice like alcohol sweats like on people like.
1:03:51
Yeah, exactly.
I think that it, you know, like, again, he is the perfect example of like an 80s type movie cantankerous grave keeper, you know, would you think about somebody like that now?
1:04:09
Not really.
Like in the 80s, yeah.
You could see a guy who’s just standing around in the graveyard digging.
Graves.
Well, you think, well, let’s say, well, you think, you think about it like I, I felt like that was like a nice homage to John Carpenter’s Christine.
This is kind of like the same with the guy who’s, you know, I mean, it wasn’t a graveyard, but like tending, you know, the dead body of that nice Plymouth.
1:04:37
I think it’s good.
Was there anything else before we rate?
I think that’s good enough.
OK, so on a scale of zero to 10 lemon lime bruise, the fuck is that lemon lime bruise?
I’m glad you did that because I was going to say if you didn’t say that, I was going to make it like correct you and say like this is the actual.
1:04:57
It it is a soda.
It really is.
It was a thing.
It was a really.
Yeah.
Lemon lime bruise.
Yeah.
Or brus.
I don’t.
I don’t know how you say it, to be honest.
I’m guessing it’s bruise like like a cheeky way of of of spelling brew.
1:05:15
But yeah, it’s an actual thing.
It was a thing.
Holy shit, why if you look it up.
You can like buy an empty can on eBay and stuff like that, but it was an 80s lemon lime drink that you could get back in the day.
It was I’m trying to find.
1:05:34
Oh, it’s of the lemon lime soda of Scandinavia.
I’ve never heard of such a thing before, but apparently what was the thing?
So very interesting.
But yeah, it stands out in this movie because it’s just like, where?
1:05:51
Did that come from the one shot of it?
Like, you know that I would say out of all the children, like the things they brought to camp, That and the basket of fucking radishes and parsnip turnips.
Funny thing about here’s the paper towels.
1:06:11
And it’s like, Oh yeah, I’m willing to make a nice 8th century English soup.
It’s just nothing but every root vegetable you could think of.
So my root bag, you got my parsnips.
That’s.
Right.
So what would you give Jason Lives?
1:06:32
Probably 13.
It was 13.
It was 13 out.
Of 10.
I give it a seven.
I liked it a lot.
I thought it was a lot of fun.
I was pleasantly surprised by this film.
Breath of Fresh Air.
It’s the schlocky, campy film that you know that succeeds at that.
1:06:50
It knows what it’s trying to be and knows it’s that leans into that and successful in that.
This film, like I said, is it a good movie?
No, but it’s fun.
I think whether you’re a slasher fan, a horror fan, a Friday 13th fan, you, you know, things that like in some ways I’m not.
1:07:11
You can have fun with this.
It knows what it is.
It’s fast-paced really, you know, just flat enjoyable.
So like I said, 7 out of 10 pleasantly surprised by the whole process.
I’m sad this is going to be like the only film franchise.
I would give it a 6 1/2 to 7 out of 10.
1:07:32
I think it’s.
Wow, look at you being ungenerous.
I think it’s a good movie.
You know, again, I think there’s a limit to these types of films.
You know, again, even saying that from a horror film, I think that like you can only give it a certain rating that you know, again, you can’t offset it with like, Oh, I also gave, you know, like one as, you know, a much better movie A7 out of 10 just because I found this one fun.
1:07:59
Again, though, the ratings are How dare you so like.
Hold on, I was going to say, hold on.
How dare you.
Our ratings are as ironclad and stone cold as anything.
That’s right.
Yeah.
I just, yeah, I mean, I have a hard time giving it any higher.
But I do think that it’s a really fun movie and probably one of the better movies in the Friday 13th franchise.
1:08:18
I think like it’s it’s certainly leans like we’ve we’ve talked about throughout this episode, it leans into this idea that the film doesn’t have to be, you know, serious and you know, like really stick to its its horror roots.
1:08:35
It can be fun and comical and lean into this idea that Jason is sort of this this unserious thing that kind of exists outside of reality and not really have to play by reality’s rules that much.
So I like that.
1:08:51
I think that it works really well.
I think that it is again, like get coming off of something like the new beginning.
I think that it’s it, you know, like it knows what it wants to do.
It doesn’t want to just present another film like that where it kind of doesn’t go with Jason.
1:09:13
It wants to really get back to basics of what Jason is.
And I think that that’s the the strong suit of this movie.
It’s just, you know, it doesn’t really have much to to make up for.
It’s it just is what it is.
It’s it’s happy to be what it is.
And it’s a really fun movie that really, I think Harkins back to this really great time in the 80s where movies were just kind of fun.
1:09:36
You just watch them for entertainment value.
And I think also to one thing that stands out to me is it has this really nice atmosphere to it of like what you consider a horror movie, like a like the very, very stereotypical idea of a horror movie, like, you know, thunderstorms and, you know, leaves blowing around and, and stuff like that.
1:09:59
It’s just has like this very nostalgic feel of what a horror movie should feel like.
And I think it works pretty well.
So I’m going to give it like a 6 1/2 seven on ten.
I think it’s a really fun movie, one of the best in the Friday 13th franchise.
If I had to go back to a Friday 13th movie again and watch it for Friday 13th, Part 6 is probably one of the ones I would choose.
1:10:20
So it’s really fun.
All right, so that’s our episode on Friday 13th, Part 6, Jason lives.
What are we doing next?
What’s on the agenda?
No.
We’ll figure it out.
1:10:36
Yeah, I don’t know yet either.
I don’t, I don’t know that we have something specifically planned out.
So we will, I think we’ll probably take a week off, right, and then come back.
We are coming up on Saint Patrick’s Day.
Nope.
You don’t want to do another leprechaun.
1:10:54
You can do that alone.
I actually am not sure that we have any more.
I think we just what was the last one we did?
Was it like the remake?
The remake Leprechaun.
Yeah, it was the WWE, The WWE one that was like an hour.
And I think we have one more, which is Leprechaun returns, I believe, because I don’t think we did that one.
1:11:17
That was like a 2018.
Yeah, we did Leprechaun origins right, Which was pretty, pretty Dang awful, if I remember.
Yeah, the WWE, Yeah.
And then we have leprechaun returns which I don’t we’ve not done yet either so that.
1:11:33
Can’t make me.
Are you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It could be.
It could be a fun a fun conversation.
Yeah, I don’t know about that.
When is next Tuesday?
I think the 17th.
Is it so?
1:11:51
We could, we could, we could we could do it for next.
Week I’m not here to support Warwick Davis getting money.
When work Davis is not in this movie.
I don’t care.
You should be, you should actually should be upset that he did not.
He was not asked to return to this movie.
1:12:11
The movie was made for fucking sci-fi.
It was, yeah, it’s going to be, it’s going to, it’s going to be not good.
But oh, actually, no, you know what for it, the truth in the trivia it says for Leprechaun Returns where Davis was asked to reprise or reprise or however you say the leprechaun and he declined.
1:12:30
So that probably tells you how good.
Was he if he was in?
Back to the hood.
Let’s just let that sink in.
Warwick Davis was all fine with like, smoking a joint or smoking like a ridiculous bong and back to the hood, but when sci-fi offered him Leprechaun Returns, he was like.
1:12:50
No thank you.
No thanks.
So.
I have standards, that’s right.
He was too.
Busy, you know, probably dicking around Karl Pilkington.
That’s true.
As for 2018, yeah, you might be right about that.
1:13:06
He might have.
That’s.
True idiot.
Idiot Abroad.
Oh, God.
I I you know what?
I missed that show.
I didn’t launch season 3, but like, I’m just thinking about it.
Like, yeah. 3 wasn’t as good.
The first two we’re definitely.
I like remember like the little animated bits like the early 20 tens of watching on YouTube of not interviewing abroad, but the like Ricky Gervais and the other guy, Steven whatever and Carl like you know, their little podcasts.
1:13:38
Yeah.
All right.
Well.
Sorry to be off top.
That’s OK.
We’ll talk.
We’ll talk about it.
Maybe we’ll do it.
Maybe.
Who knows?
We’ll find out.
But yeah, if you are interested in what we cover, you should subscribe to us on pretty much any podcast apps you can think of.
1:13:56
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1:14:12
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1:14:28
Thanks for listening to our episode.
Hope you have a great Friday 13th, a good luck Friday 13th if you if you really believe in the supernatural like that.
And until next time.
Take care.
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