Episode: 361 • Duration: 01:06:55
We saved the best (or worst) for last. Battlefield Earth has a reputation for being one of the most god-awful movies ever made, and we have to admit, it’s definitely a possibility. We talk about the things that others have probably talked about before, including the ridiculous Psychlo designs, the terrible plot, multitude of Dutch angles, and we also dive into Scientology a little bit (and how stupid it is, yes we mean that as an insult).
We’re also drinking Other Half Brewing x Junior’s collaboration, the Strawberry Dream double dry-hopped IPA with oat cream and strawberries.
Approximate timeline
0:00-11:00 Intro
11:00-18:00 Beer talk
18:00-end Battlefield Earth
That does it for this year’s Difficult Films, but we’ll be back in a couple weeks with more standard coverage!
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Transcript – Difficult Films* (5) BATTLEFIELD EARTH (auto-generated)
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1:00
Hey guys.
Welcome back to the Blood and Black Ground Podcast.
I’m Ryan from closeplotation.com and I’m joined with my Coho Smart.
How’s it going?
Not so great, actually.
This was the last episode of difficult films that we’re doing this month.
So we saved the worst for last.
We did we say we were, you know, this is one that we had planned out for the majority of the, you know, the majority of this series we didn’t really plan out.
1:24
We didn’t like say we’re definitely doing this, this, this and this.
But this one we did this was, this was already, you know, scheduled for for release.
So, and we’re actually recording this a little bit late because my daughter was in the hospital.
So I didn’t have a chance to record earlier this week.
1:40
So so yeah, it’s it’s not been a great, great time because mostly because of the movie.
The movie is, is, is a pile of of trash.
And we’ll, we’ll get to that as we get into the film.
But yeah, we, we wanted to pick this one because we wanted to save like we wanted.
1:59
We did a few episodes where we picked films that were supposedly difficult, but then when we watched them, we actually decided, no, you know what?
I think these are actually pretty good movies, ones that are worth watching like Showgirls or, you know, we we all agreed as well in the last week’s episode.
2:18
Freddie Got Fingered is not really a like great movie, but it’s also kind of not doing it on purpose.
And so we recognize that and actually enjoy it.
And then we did a couple that we actually didn’t enjoy and found them to be as difficult as other people thought.
But we wanted to save one where we were like, yes, that is definitely going to be the worst movie that we can have on the show.
2:40
And I think we’ve really, after watching it, because this is the first time for both of us watching this movie, I think we really hit the mark there, went above and beyond what we needed to do for this last episode.
So the movie that we’re talking about today is, you know, click.
2:57
We’re finally doing.
We’re finally.
Doing at some point we’ll have to do it the full uncut, unsaid version.
But no, the episode that we’re doing today, and I think it should the the film should have this in front of it just be for the sake of embarrassment.
It should have John Travolta’s Battlefield Earth right at the front, you know, to further embarrass the man for having anything to do with this movie and also for just being a Scientologist in general.
3:25
I’m sure he’s actually proud of it.
He’s probably like, yes, yeah.
That’s true, yeah.
Look upon my work, Elron.
Is it good?
Really.
Suck it up over there.
Yeah.
So like I said, neither of us have seen Battlefield Earth before.
3:43
Obviously there is a, you know, a well known infamy to the movie and it released in 2000, which I do remember it coming out.
This was I would have been like what, nine years old?
4:00
Ten years old, No, sorry, I would have been like 11.
We were 11 years old.
And I do remember like trailers for the movie and stuff like that.
And I think even then, you know, at 11 years old, I was like, that looks like shit.
4:17
Just, you know, maybe not so many words.
But lucky for me I did.
I did not recall ever seeing this like show up in like trailers or anything.
So for me.
I do feel like I remember it at some point back in the day and see again, this is this is the type of movie that my parents would not have been interested in even were it to be good, right?
4:40
Like my parents really weren’t into science fiction movies or anything like that.
They weren’t big action fans.
My dad would definitely find that any movie such as this would have too much your special effects because he’s been very vocal against special effects and also too many characters.
4:58
And so this film which.
Is, which is, which is funny because he is a big Stephen King fan.
So I mean like, you know, yeah, it’s very it’s.
Interesting, I don’t know what actually falls into that category very well besides like down to earth realistic like ranch hand movies or something.
5:22
You know someone you always Brokeback Mountain, not because of like the story anything.
It’s just about two people, two men on a mountain.
Easy to keep track of, no special effects, easy to keep track of.
Yeah, well, you, well, you can’t ever show him the anime that you’re watching right now that I finally got you.
5:38
No, it’s Legend of the Legend of the Galactic Carols ’cause that show has like 300 characters.
Yeah, far too much to track for sure.
And yet he did like Lost, which, you know, again, is one of those shows that has a lot of characters and follows different people throughout and keeps adding and stuff like that.
5:55
So anyway.
Man, that hasn’t that just been lost in the zeitgeist like that in 24 Lost, It’s like you don’t hear anybody in 2026 being like, hey, I looked for, I looked forward to watching 24 lost in The West Wing.
6:14
I’ll be like, I like that West Wing.
It’s got that Martin Short in it.
That Martin Short.
Sorry I.
Was going to say not Martin Short.
Yeah, I think it would have been better.
Yeah, right.
Martin Sheen.
Yeah, not Martin Sheen.
6:35
Yeah, it’s, yeah, it’s true.
Really been lost.
I mean, I think Westland still kind of people watch.
No, no, I know.
I’m just saying like I like out of those like 3 big shows of the mid 2000s, like, you know, lost and 24 really lost like her, yeah.
6:53
Their hold so anyway like with battlefield earth you know we’ve you you’ve probably seen throughout the years you know it has been listed pretty routinely as one of the worst movies ever made.
It is a movie that I think a lot of people have heard about, know about, but probably have never watched.
7:16
You know, I, I, I, I think it’s, it falls into that category where like not only did no one like the movie, but the, the backlash about it really ’cause people to not even bother seeing the movie.
So they, all they know is what they’ve heard about it instead of actually watching it.
7:34
I don’t know if you find that too, but I don’t know a single person who’s actually seen the movie.
Like, it’s like one of those, one of those mystery things where, you know, people just to have it in the back of their mind as like a cultural touchpoint, but they don’t know anything more about it.
7:54
And I think the biggest thing that, you know, in researching the movie and stuff is the fact that, and I didn’t realize this even before starting to look into it, is that it was based on the L Ron Hubbard novel Battlefield Earth.
I had no idea that it was actually a book prior to actually getting into this movie.
8:13
And I’ve never read it, but I think you said that you looked at the book a little bit and it’s like 1000 page opus.
Yeah, and Wikipedia, it says it’s about 10 a 1050 pages paperback.
Yeah.
So the the whole title is Battlefield Earth Colon, a saga of the year 3000.
8:36
Yeah, saga.
All right, I don’t think the Norse goddess are going to be singing of this tale and what not, but.
And it’s.
I was going to sorry, I was going to say it real quick.
What like I said before, in a couple of episodes, like for this film in particular is like with showgirls is a film that the only way I know about it is from the that guy with the glasses, like angry, you know, movie reviewers and video game nerds and stuff.
9:06
Like as that guy with glasses nostalgia critic did a review of this film back in the day that was like a lot of people thought was funny criticizing it.
And then that guy with the glasses did it like a four hour fucking movie basically based off that was yeah, well, not on the movie spoof and stuff, but it like it was like a big, big thing.
9:31
It was shit.
It was a four hour shit show of a shitty movie too, those movies.
But point being is that’s like the the only way I know about it because like I said, never saw a trailer for it.
You know, if I were to look, if you didn’t have Battlefield earth on that poster and it just was the poster artwork, I would think like, wow, what?
9:51
What shitty Sega Genesis game am I looking at now?
Like like the the the the Dreamcast.
StarCraft sort of like a knock off.
Yeah, or like, like something like maybe like a Japanese only like Sega Saturn game because, you know, the Saturn wasn’t popular in the States and like, oh, you know what’s going on this, you know.
10:12
True, and I even like that IMDb has like the classic VHS trailer for it too.
It’s just like kind of the shittiness of everything.
Common Criterion.
I guess what I was going to say about the L Ron Hubbard thing is, you know, again, this it’s a weird thing because, you know, at this time, L Ron Hubbard had been, he was working on his Scientology writings and part of Battlefield Earth as a novel does, I think, tie in a little bit to his beliefs in Scientology.
10:49
And The funny thing about it is that Battlefield Earth, the film really has no direct connotation to Scientology, the belief system, or none that you can really glean unless you are really, I think, very deep into Scientology.
11:05
Like maybe Scientologists watch this movie and they’re like, Oh yes, when Xenu did that.
And you know, I from the, from the, from the, the lore, but I, I don’t have any of that background knowledge or anything like that.
I have not looked into Scientology very deeply.
11:21
All of it.
All of it seems like basically he he was sent to like, like maybe like see a shrink once and the shrink said like gave him some advice and like said like you didn’t work on these since you’re a you’re a shitty person.
And he’s like those psycho psychiatrist or a bunch of psychos psycho psycho.
11:44
Yeah, like it’s so like just.
And the other thing about it, I think, is money, money, money, money, money.
Money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, ’cause big big Tenet of Scientology, though it’s not stated in the belief system, is that hey, you got to pay for all this stuff too.
12:00
Like a lot of lot of this costs a lot of money to like get involved with it’s.
Literally my favorite mission.
It’s literally my favorite mission in Grand Theft Auto 5 where as Michael you have to pay the epsilon program over and over again and the whole and the whole walking like the desert for 20,000 steps and yet like literally sit there for like an hour, just like if you want to give it completed, you know, and like just walking around going kiff LAN, kiff LAN kiff LAN, you know, it’s.
12:28
Great.
And it’s, you know, again, that’s that’s the whole idea behind it is that it is a series of ridiculous steps of higher beings to get into like the in more increasing levels and the more you get into the levels, the more stuck you are in it.
12:47
The interesting thing I find about battlefield Earth is that like this is a crazy undertaking for somebody who primarily A theologists style with Scientology to write 1000 word or 1000 page novel science fiction novel at the same time period when science fiction was actually like fairly booming in that, you know, in that era that that would have been a big thing.
13:11
And and so I find it very interesting that that was like 1 of L Ron Hubbard’s contributions to culture besides Scientology is he wrote 1000 page sci-fi novel just, you know, like he’s the Arthur C Clarke of.
Shut your mouth, don’t you?
13:28
I’m joking about that.
Don’t.
Don’t you be saying such.
I’m sorry, I should say more like the Azimov.
Sorry.
OK, no.
And I wonder if I wonder if him and Ian Rand were friends or something.
Yeah, probably blow hards.
You know, blow dating.
That’s right.
13:44
You want to read The Fountainhead?
No, it’s like 2000 pages long.
Got something better than listen to Iron Ran talk about who’s Jon Snow or Smith or whatever the fuck, I don’t care.
The other thing that I find interesting about this movie in particular is that they only adapted half of the novel.
14:03
Like it’s this is a 2 hour long movie and it really only dives into the first part of the novel.
And there was a planned second film to come out that never happened because quite literally no one liked this movie.
14:21
And so it it was like a $44 million budget only made back slightly over half of its budget at the box office did terrible.
So you can understand why no one was like chomping at the bed to green light a second film to, to finish the novel’s storyline, which at this point, if you’re watching the first movie and you’re like, this one needs a second movie, I think there’s something wrong with your brain.
14:49
Because this movie really, as we’ll get into the plot itself is like completely nonsensical and not even remotely interesting where you’re like, wow, I can’t wait to see what else is going to happen in this universe.
Like I think, you know, we’ll, we’ll get into that when we start talking about the movie itself.
15:07
But like, it is surprising that anybody would even think like 2 movies.
We could get 2 out of these anyway I was.
Going to say it’s like the matrix reloaded and I’m drawing a blank on the one and the two.
15:25
Revelations.
Yeah, Revelations.
And like the Lord of the Rings, like we in Superman one and two, we shot these back-to-back because we’re like, we got a hit, we got a hit, you know, mate, Then it’s just sitting in the vault somewhere, you know?
Same thing with the that Exorcist trilogy playing trilogy we keep talking about here.
15:46
Yeah, that would have been great if Tom Cruise did that for The Mummy.
Oh yeah, there you go.
You.
Know we got like mummy.
Sequels to Mummy, sequels all over the place.
What could have been if we had the the Dark Universe?
16:01
Who?
Knows we could have had Rachel Weiss back and we all wouldn’t have been better.
For it ’cause you know that’s true all right well, let’s take a break real quick before we get into the movie itself and let’s talk about the beer that we have on the show we got a special one on here today one that I had actually specially ordered because we saw a pop up on Facebook.
16:24
I follow the brewery on Facebook and I saw that they were putting out this nice collaboration.
We’re going to have it up for sale online and free shipping in the in New York State because the brewery is also located in New York State.
16:39
And generally like that’s the way to do it, right?
Because the shipping on beer is outrageous in on any other capacity.
It’s always like $25 extra just to ship the beer.
And so when you see something that you want and the shipping is free, you better take advantage of it.
16:55
You better tell that brewery I’m, I’m open to shipping when you’re shipping for free, you know, let them know.
So we did.
We are, we went in together with another friend as well and we split it three ways because the the order is fairly expensive, 24 beers for like 120 bucks or something like that.
17:14
So for me at least that’s like fairly expensive and it’s better to split it.
So we did and we ended up getting the other half and juniors collaboration and they are both out of New York State.
They are in Brooklyn I believe.
17:33
Yep.
Brooklyn Junior’s is I think a fairly popular dessert bakery in Brooklyn and so they paired with Other Half Brewing to kind of make dessert style beers based off of their confectionery treats.
17:54
So that package included things like 1/2 moon cookie type of cream ale.
There was a egg cream stout, a Key Lime Pie beer, which I have not had yet.
I think you’ve tried one.
18:11
And the one that we have on the show today is their Strawberry Dream, which is a double dry hopped Imperial oat cream IPA with strawberries.
That’s a That’s a mouthful.
And actually I think, yeah, it is a mouthful.
18:29
And I think this is based on like a cherry cheese or a strawberry cheesecake is my guess.
Is that how what you’re getting as well?
Kind of like a cheesecake style?
I don’t know.
If it says on here, does it say no?
18:45
It doesn’t seem like, see the other ones say like, oh, this one’s based on a junior’s half and half cookie or this one’s based on the egg cream that juniors would serve and stuff like that.
This one doesn’t say.
It just does A hazy strawberry oat cream IPA brewed with juniors giving creamy, hoppy strawberry vibes.
19:06
And it has a picture of like a cheesecake on it.
So that’s what I’m going to assume.
You know why they didn’t?
They just want to.
They had oats and hops together.
Yeah, right.
It’s got oats.
And it’s got oats.
They’re like.
I do love, I do love the the proliferation of like oat IP as oat cream IP as I like that.
19:26
That’s just fun.
It’s the next.
It’s the next level of the milkshake.
Idea.
That’s right.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, it’s, it’s not like I like it.
I wouldn’t have it like often because it it is nice, but it is weird because it’s a double dry hop, double IPA.
19:46
It’ll big punch of the pine, very big, a very slight strawberry to it.
Not it’s not overwhelming it.
It’s not a fake strawberry taste.
You’re actually, you know, slight like, you know, a little like if you were eating like, like a tiny strawberry that hasn’t like fully ripened.
20:06
Yet tiny strawberry.
Just a little tiny guy.
Little tiny guy doesn’t have and and like the oatness gives it like a little a little bit more bodies to it, but like the creaminess of it.
It’s very mild.
Like when you were saying cheesecake, that’s like kind of when it kind of clicked in my brain like, yeah, at the back end.
20:27
I do get like a, you know, Milky cheat, like, you know, cream cheese to it.
It’s definitely interesting.
Like I props to them and it’s a great idea, you know, like totally like going and doing something totally different.
20:50
Is it like successful?
No, no, no, we’ll see how I go, you know, go drinking it.
But it’s it’s definitely not bad.
I just it kind of bamboozled by it right now.
It’s like an it’s just the assault, kind of a, an assault on my senses.
21:09
I yeah, I agree.
I think that this is a pretty good beer.
It has a nice hoppy characteristic.
I actually think the hops come out quite a bit and right at the beginning when you first take a sip, it’s pretty, pretty significantly hoppy.
Like this is brewed, it says with strata Crush Cryo.
21:30
Those definitely come out.
The strawberry element to it is definitely more nuanced.
It’s not a super heavy strawberry flavour to it.
It’s you know, it’s there, but it’s very subtle.
And then I agree.
21:46
I get like a nice little OD or, you know, sort of just like a almost pie like texture to it at the back end that gives it that sort of cheesecake type flavour profile.
I think it’s pretty good.
22:02
It’s nice little it’s not super thick.
I do think it does have a nice little bit of creaminess to it, but it’s not overall like a very super filling beer, although it does sit well in the dessert style of this type of beer.
22:18
So I I would definitely try it again.
I think other half does make a lot of really great IP as and I think this has a nice base from their IP as I think I would have liked the strawberry to come out just a little bit more.
But otherwise it’s pretty interesting idea and dynamic here.
22:36
And probably from what I’ve had so far of the four, the more interesting of of the collaborations that I’ve had so far because the other ones have kind of been like, oh, you had like a sort of like a chocolatey cream ale.
The other and then, you know, like, oh, there’s like a chocolatey stout, but those aren’t really super unique in the flavour profiles, whereas this one I feel like kind of goes above and beyond and does a little bit more with the the flavour profile to match a strawberry cheesecake type flavour.
23:06
So, all right, well, let’s just dive right into Battlefield Earth, shall we?
John Travolta’s.
Yeah, John Travolta’s battlefield.
Don’t let him escape.
And I’m not.
I’m I should keep tagging it with him all the time?
23:24
So I will be honest with you, this movie is overall just a no.
It is a mess in that not only is it just a overall bad movie to watch, but the plot itself is so muddled and really unsure of what it even is trying to do that it really from right from the beginning of the movie.
23:52
There’s almost like just so many outside influences painting itself into the movie that you’re just like bombarded with every single sci-fi trope that you can think of.
Like you mentioned right at the beginning, you have sort of like these caveman people that reminds of like a Planet of the Apes type movie.
24:11
And then you’re introduced to the Cyclose, specifically John Travolta’s character, who is Daryl.
Yeah, boy, who is basically in, in shadow, you know, cavorting around chasing after the, you know, the, the, the main character, Johnny and his group of hold on, Cavemen.
24:36
Hold on.
What’s that man’s name?
Johnny, Johnny, good boy.
Johnny.
Good boy, Tyler.
Yes.
Me.
Yeah.
See, the year 3000.
When man.
24:51
When?
When man is almost extinct due to its enemies.
At at least then indicate in the caves.
We’re still naming our kids like it’s 1964 and you’re sending them off to Nam.
Hey, it’s Johnny.
25:07
Good boy.
Johnny good boy.
Tyler coming in.
Yeah, I do love that too.
Like that doesn’t matter.
The whole rest of the world has been basically obliterated and under the the slave enslavement of these cyclose that they call like beasts or demons or whatever.
25:24
But they’ve upheld most of the regular traditions of like getting married, taking surnames and, you know, middle names and things like that.
That the the idea that the these Cavemen guys are like, yeah.
And for those who hang out in a cave, they’re also very tan, true and white.
25:44
Do you think, do you think, do you think Forest Whitaker’s in here just to be a token, like literally token because there’s like no way possible Black people.
No, you know, Latinos, Asians, like where they all like this is fucking stupid.
Now I’m out like, you know, bridge to fuck because again, is there something right off the podcast like even if you like or somebody who’s well versed, which we’re not and like L Ron Hubbard, sci-fi writing bullshit, Scientology and what not.
26:14
Even if you take whatever your thoughts are about that, throw them out the window and go in blank face like probably most people were in 2000 if they saw this Richard Sack of shit in theaters, paid good money for that.
You would be like, this is crap because it’s just the epitome of the X.
26:37
Like you can tell film was made in 2000.
It’s literally like The Big Bang and so like Goodbye parade for the 90s because there’s so much excess of the 90s like film here.
It’s ridiculous.
The Dodge angles for no reason, slow MO because of the Matrix and things, everything slow MO Star Wars is just big.
27:02
Here’s some wipes and and Oh yeah, we just had a bunch of Star Trek films We’re going to have like have all the fucking, you know, turtle in them that the site closed.
They’re like bastard ice Klingons.
It’s just like all just this.
27:17
A cross between the Klingons and as I was getting at, but I didn’t really get to No, no, I got sidetracked.
But I was John Travolta is looking like the fucking Predator with shadow.
And then and then they do the actual revealing like, Oh yeah, oh, that’s.
27:34
What he fucking looks.
Like, you know, an Insane Clown Posse.
See.
She’s a juggle.
I mean I would be scared too, but like in a different way like.
Everybody comes.
In the way he’s trying to get a light for me.
Or something.
We we, we need somebody to like when we get the reveal of like them, like being shot and chased and then like you just sit in the background.
27:55
Everybody’s come see the greatest show gather up oh Juggalos and.
And that’s no, I know I’m not trying to disparage Juggalos here.
I you.
Know you shouldn’t because you know they’re better.
Much better than exactly are much better than the cyclose.
I think the cyclose stole their their, their look and everything stuff, you know.
28:15
But it’s it’s like you.
That’s the Jinko jeans.
I mean it’s.
It’s just like, like such slop.
And I’ll give the film credit, there’s an idea here that like could be interesting what the go on there isn’t like because again, it’s generic like and it’s sci-fi.
28:39
Ness like yes, yes.
But you would have to like.
Not making a movie.
Make it like an HBO like and this is like if it were to come out like today, because I don’t like you, a serious like HBO style cinematic short series to elaborate, really make like a get like expanded because again, the writing is just so fucking stupid.
29:05
Johnny good boy Tyler, man animal.
They’re not they’re not animals and they call them man animals.
So like, it’s just they couldn’t.
Even they couldn’t just burn it to man animals.
They have to keep saying man animals whole movie like, you know, like I think someone like Forest Whitaker would have been like what the fuck am I saying?
29:25
This is stupid.
Because it’s it’s also because it’s supposed to be like, Oh yes, look at lowly like, you know, so you feel like, yeah, I’m mad.
I’m man, like we can overcome these assholes, you know?
And it’s just like, it’s so brain rot inducing stupid.
29:42
Like with a smarter writer you could salvage some like of this.
But again, you don’t call them cyclos.
They’re from Cyclone.
They’re Cyclone.
It’s too.
And like Johnny Good boy Tyler, it’s way too on the nose.
29:57
It’s like if you were to give that script, like if you were like a creative writing class in college, when you were to turn this in as like your ideas, your teacher would throw it at, you’d laugh at you.
Try again.
I’m going to be honest with you here and I, I think, you know, some listeners may take offense to this, but Battlefield Earth is like a contemporary Rob Zombie of sci-fi.
30:25
It really is because I’m getting a lot of very similar feelings from Battlefield Earth as like some of the worst Rob Zombie movies, very on the nose writing check, you know, like over the top antics that are not in no way realistic whatsoever.
30:45
Check.
You know, like the and and I think to like to your point, you’re right, Battlefield Earth is doing neither of these things right.
It’s not taking itself to it’s not serious enough to be a good science fiction movie.
And yet it’s it’s also not very good at it even creating its own lore because the film arguably for over it’s almost two hours long, It really has very little world building going on in this movie.
31:16
Like there’s almost none whatsoever.
All you really get is like we’re in the future 3000 years.
Earth’s been destroyed.
There are aliens called cyclos and there are humans that still live on Earth.
And that’s like all of the world building that you get.
It’s there’s, it’s so, so you know, for I don’t know how we spent two hours not getting anything more out of it.
31:38
It’s the fact.
Well, it’s in slow MO half the time and it’s true, man.
Animals.
That’s like the greatest.
The fact that you have to spend most of the film again, Johnny, good boy Tyler, our protagonist, he’s in the film like a third.
We spend 2/3 of it with fucking John Travolta and it’s basically the world build and like, but like because it’s like, well, most people probably haven’t read this L round Hubbard shit.
32:04
So we got to explain like, Oh yes, our green liquor liquor and all these words we’re saying gibberly gobbledyku, but it’s not interesting.
It’s not.
It’s like a incredibly bad like Star Trek episode.
Exactly.
32:20
Yes.
Like if that’s like the cheapest 90s.
Stargate SG-1 knock off that you can get like on VPN or something like it’s, you know, it’s the UPN version of of a science fiction.
Yeah, exactly.
It’s like that doesn’t have any, you know, it’s late night.
32:38
You don’t, doesn’t have a budget and it’s just trying to do its thing.
Yeah, it’s it’s really bad.
And and like the the, again, we have to emphasize this movie had $44 million poured into it.
John Travolta put is reported to have put like at least $1,000,000 of his own money into it because the film often stagnated.
32:55
It had been in the works for quite a while.
There was a lot of talk even in the 1990s about making Battlefield Earth into a film with John Travolta coming off of Pulp Fiction being a very big star and also a big Scientologist and people.
33:13
And even at that time we’re talking about making it.
So there was a lot of production that went into it.
There’s a lot of money that went into it and and all that money turned out to this, like this junk.
And I think one of the bigger things about this that is so interesting and I would love to see an actual like production featurette or something on the making of this movie that’s not influenced by anybody who was involved in it.
33:36
You know, it’s a outside external documentarian.
Yeah, exactly.
Because I would like to see what happened in like the script writing room and the the production rooms where people were saying, yeah, this is going to be a movie about cyclones and John Travolta is in here.
33:55
Here’s the dailies of John Travolta playing, you know, the main villain and stuff and people.
Are like just yes, yeah.
You know what the problem is with the dailies?
John Travolta’s probably there watching the dailies.
Like, you know, it’s like the whole Jon Lovitz, like acting.
34:13
Like you know they had him in the room still in the make up.
Because like, he’s just sitting there.
Like, what do you think, John?
Yeah, it’s this guy.
Yeah, just because I just, I cannot imagine a group of 30 individuals that across all manner of production on a, you know, a big studio budget sitting around saying, yeah, this is this is awesome, this is great.
34:37
You know, like the dailies are coming in and I can actually see probably people getting visibly sick as the dailies keep coming in and they’re like, what the fuck is this?
What is this?
It’s just every day it just keeps getting worse and worse, but we’re more and more money.
In do you think, do you think that’s why the Dutch angles are so prominent?
34:54
Because like just as like out of spite, you know, Roger Christians like sitting there like maybe wants more tilt and they just like slowly like he’s like they’ll be getting having.
It’s slowly like.
I think the the Dutch angle is a reference to the audience member getting more and more drunk.
35:15
Or.
Sleepy and, you know, tilting their head.
Yeah, it’s, it’s supposed to be the audience member.
Yeah, the camera is you.
I would love to see if anybody has done an actual count of how many Dutch angles shots there are.
35:32
I mean, because I, I mean, I think it’s like literally the entire film.
So however many, you know, however many reels there are of the film and stuff like that, however many shots there are, that’s how many Dutch angles there are.
35:49
Because it’s it’s it’s an immense and like you said, there’s like a feeling of seasickness in this movie because constantly you’re even like what you would consider to normal.
Did did somebody well, did they count it?
36:06
I don’t know if.
You’re Google.
Google AI says that that no one has counted, but it is estimated that over 90% of the shots.
Are Dutch angles.
Yeah, and.
That’s complete sense, and that’s a problem.
36:22
That’s right.
Because like what it does is it makes it so that even things that you generally take for granted, like just the over the shoulder shots of people talking conversationally are all shot from fucking 30° on the ground.
36:40
And you’re like left wondering like, why am I so off kilter here?
Like what?
What is even the point of showing two people talking and every time we switch back and forth between them, we’re at a different angle.
I don’t, I don’t quite understand why.
And like, I think part of what makes Battlefield Earth actually, but maybe one of the only things that makes it an interesting movie is to is that it really refrains from using any conventional movie making process, right?
37:12
Like you would think most movies are maybe a little bit criticized for being too standard.
They they use the techniques, the the conventional techniques of filmmaking and they don’t really, you know, stray too far from that.
And Battlefield Earth is like made by an alien who’s never seen a movie and thinks that these are, you know, this is what a movie is like.
37:33
And it like is shot from 15 different angles and it’s shot with like a constant disgustingly blue filter and.
Blue-green, like, you know, right on the eve of green taking over everything.
37:49
And again, it’s it’s like you said, like in it’s I got I was starting to get seasick at points.
I don’t I don’t get motion sickness because it’s just like what, like why?
Like it’s not doing anything.
It’s, you know, that enhancing the storytelling.
38:08
It’s just such a like, did George Lucas tell Roger Christian after like he like, you know, coming off the Phantom Menace?
Like I bet you couldn’t make a film with 90% of it being Dutch ankles, you pussy.
38:26
He’s like.
You know, I don’t think, I don’t.
I don’t wear.
We have to also assume that it’s possible that some people that were forced to work on this movie.
We’re actively.
Trying to sabotage this movie like because the it’s possible that some of them were not really, you know, they were just kind of here as a job and they were sabotaging the production of it because it was such a stupid ass fucking idea or it was so haphazardly directed.
38:57
I think a lot of.
Imagine, Can you imagine being like the boom wank guy as John Travolta’s like pray it’s around the sad one.
Just like I I do.
Want John, Can you, John, can you hurry it up?
Like we got to have we got to go to catering in like 5 minutes, OK?
39:17
Like Jesus?
I do think it’s interesting too, because this is not like it’s Roger Christian’s first film.
It’s not, it’s not like he hasn’t done films before or since.
He’s actually had a, you know, a fairly productive career prior to Battlefield Earth that was not particularly, you know, criticized.
39:43
You know, he had a couple of films that released and, you know, to not a huge amount of fanfare, but they weren’t like lambasted because they were terrible.
You know, The Sender is a good example of that 1982 film horror film that he released.
So it’s interesting, like what actually ended up happening on the set of.
40:03
Battlefield Earth, Was there a lot of production issues that were kind of plagued the development of the movie?
I could see that.
I could see L Ron Hubbard trying to get a little bit more involved in the film then maybe people were hoping for.
40:21
And so that kind of made things go in a different direction.
But I think at the end of the day, everything kind of culminates into probably a the biggest criticism.
Criticism kind of goes back to trying to adapt L Ron Hubbard’s novel in a way that makes it so is it?
40:42
It relies way too much on any other sci-fi trope, you know, because you can think of pretty much any popular sci-fi movie around this time is here in some ways.
The wipes of Star Wars, the Predator, you know, Terminator.
Why is the like the?
40:58
Independent Independence Day.
Fucking Independence Day.
I don’t know if that’s what the books like or not, but it’s so fucking stupid and just so like, just like what is going on.
I mean, the the whole final conclusion of like the air fight is, you know, basically out of of Star Wars.
41:16
And so it’s like, I think that they just, again, did not really have a great idea at all in terms of how the movie was portrayed.
I’m really also interested to find out if an L Ron Hubbard’s book, this was the description of the Cyclose.
41:31
Like, I don’t know how they really got to this point.
I think the interesting ideas like the little air thing that they put on their nose, I think that’s kind of like a unique take that is otherwise lost with the rest of the movie that it doesn’t really expound upon that very often.
41:51
And actually to the film’s detriment, because a lot of the plot points situate around the fact that like, there’s a special type of air that’s in the Cyclose Dome that they have in Denver, and it’s great that they call.
A Dome too.
It’s not even a Dome, it’s just.
42:07
It’s like a big.
Greenhouse.
Yeah, yeah, just greenhouse.
I think like the part of the the basis of the final plot is that there’s this big Dome that’s keeping the air in that they that the humans can’t breathe, but the cyclose can.
And so to get to kill them and allow the humans to breathe on their own, they have to break down this Dome.
42:29
And that’s really poorly expounded on in the movie.
Like it barely is mentioned and yet that’s the whole plan.
You can tell you can tell this like book was written in the 80s because again, the idea of like, well, the radioactive materials going to like their atmosphere can’t take it.
42:45
So if we just get then our powerful nuclear weapons will be able to destroy their whole planet.
And it’s like so dumb.
The whole like I can get behind like the middle part is kind of interesting at times with the whole like, you know, you know, putting the cycle like history, language, etcetera into Johnny good boys brain stuff, you know, and it’s like, you know, cool and a nice little idea, but not execute good at all.
43:17
But like, it’s just so like stupid because again, it’s also assuming that 1000 years after the year 2000, the city of Denver is still standing.
43:33
Looks like the Last of Us, like the court of steps just to go over.
You can go down to any fucking 4 carrier jets still up and running.
These dumbasses living in a cave for 1000 years.
They’ll figure out how to fill it up with fucking diesel away.
43:49
No they don’t even know what like where would you get that?
And like all the weapons and stuff like how does it all work and like nothing’s degraded overtime.
Isn’t this so lucky?
And also to these God damn aliens that are so smart and conquer them.
44:04
Bunch of different planets haven’t invented a shield for their fucking planes.
This is just like so stupid they’re getting beat by hair.
Like even in fucking Independence Day, OK, like they had the oh, the Shields, they had to figure out how to get around that on this one.
44:24
Like Elrond’s like, no, you’ll have them Gundams.
It’s just so stupid.
Like the whole idea and like the fight and the revolt is so fucking stupid.
And the idea that like, yeah, so we’ll send Johnny out to the Denver library to learn about man, He’s just sitting there and he’s reading the declaration.
44:46
Over the Declaration of Independence, yeah.
And that’s the other thing too, this film me bitching about like the fighting in the military is so jingoistic.
Because again, it’s just takes place in America.
So I guess all the only people surviving that survived the onslaught are, you know, people in America, right?
45:07
They had the will and smartness of freedom and liberty.
It’s just all Jingle again, like the whole like, you know, it’s not least Independence Day.
You get Bill Pullman like we’re united Earth and we’re going to do it together.
And here it’s just like I read the Declaration of Independence and all of a sudden we all know how to fucking use those M sixteens that were in the bunker, Rambo wing it, you know, throughout the fucking village.
45:33
Like it’s just so stupid.
Right and and this film is called Battlefield.
Earth.
Not Battlefield America.
Battlefield Rocky Mountain High.
And that was another criticism that I have of this movie is that one thing.
It’s certainly not Battlefield Earth because the film does not even really attempt to depict a more, you know, international feel to this movie.
46:00
And then secondly, it doesn’t even really use America that way.
That’s like a setting.
It’s like got 2 settings and it doesn’t even do that very well.
So I would say that the whole idea of it being called a battlefield and like the sprawl, the, the sense that the title gives of a, a sprawling war that’s happening is, is super disappointing.
46:22
When you get into the movie you’re like wait a second, there’s like there’s like 2 settings in this movie and I.
Think I saw I think I saw Joel walk and Ellie like to go see a.
Dinosaur, you know I know I will say that I think that at least the the overall CGI of the you know the space and the planet and the sort of the detritus of the blasted out cities is not bad like for a 2000s movie.
46:49
I think they did a pretty good job with that.
And I would say even today we see worse CGI in some of the DC movies that we get with, you know, and it’s kind of interesting how like CGI kind of peaked in the 2000s at some points and and is actually getting worse as we continue in movie making.
47:10
But the other parts of the CGI like the ship battles and stuff are God awful.
And the reason for that is because there’s really no choreography to the cinematography specifically in any fight sequences.
There’s a couple of like scuffles that we have and you know, fights and battles and they’re all really poorly choreographed like where you can’t see shit.
47:32
I was like watching the movie and I’m like, what is even happening?
Like what is what is happening here?
I can’t.
I can’t make out who is fighting or doing what or whatever.
It’s not blocked out or anything like so like it makes sense.
It’s just like a bombardment of your senses, like just watch, just watch, you know, like a New Hope and the final, like, you know, star fight, whether it be, you know, the original or the, you know, CGI fixed whatever it like there’s no tension, there’s no, you know, gravitas to it.
48:09
It’s all just like stuff happens.
Yeah, it’s true.
I’m curious, what do you think about John Travolta as our big bad villain?
You know, I he’s not like the worst part about this movie.
Yeah, like, I can get behind him being like a yes queen like, because, you know, he’s very queer than this.
48:32
But it’s inconsistent, like because the film wants to try to be campy at times.
Like, you know, it’s like it’s pulp eating low budget.
But at the same time, I’m in the deadly shooter and it is what it is.
48:50
Like Forest Whitaker is probably the best person in this film because everyone else is trash.
Forest is just there for a check, but he doesn’t do bad.
Like everybody’s terrible in this film.
You fucking Berry, Berry pepper one.
49:07
You’re Canadian, Where’s your accent?
You should have been walking through the film being like oh, don’t you know, know what school is he, well, you know, doing that too.
His he man haircut finally braided.
Fucking stupid, terrible.
49:26
His love interest.
She’s just there.
Have babies.
Johnny’s friends don’t remember them, don’t care.
I remember Carlos names.
They say it like once everyone else like stupid.
It’s like just incredibly, horribly active film.
49:45
It’s like, I guess what sober, sober people who haven’t had like, you know, drink in 15 years, this is what you get.
You just, you know, I like, I’m itching.
I’m itching for it.
It’s just, I mean, I, I think that, you know, John Travolta is not very good in the movie.
50:05
You know, if you’re looking for an actually villainous person, right?
Like the the extent that the he he actually is threatening or menacing, not much in terms of actually leading the movie and being one of the only reasons why you would actually want to watch this movie.
50:24
I think you that makes a better case.
Like he at least has some something to to grab onto and like about the personality that he brings to the character, whereas everybody else is kind of just delivering this very dry, very unpersonal, you know, acting job.
50:48
It’s it’s literally feels like a job.
It just is.
Like it’s something.
I just read, I just read the Declaration of Independence.
Let me tell you about freedom.
I’m going to talk to you about freedoms, Freedoms and liberty.
So like, why?
I don’t think I don’t think John Travolta is doing a great job here.
51:06
I think that’s more so the character itself, right?
Like, I don’t I don’t think Terrell as a character is really menacing.
And the film does not in the film has a real bad tonal issue about not knowing if it wants to be sort of campy or play it up more serious.
51:22
And I I think it would be better if it was serious.
But let’s face it, nothing is really going to save the overall plot because the plot is stupid.
It’s about them stealing fucking gold from Fort Knox for some reason.
Like, I don’t I’ve seen that that’s Goldfinger.
51:39
I don’t.
Even really know why the cyclos are obsessed with gold.
I don’t it’s not really like it’s the the reason behind the movie and the whole plot point of it is like when you really stop and think about it, very, very dumb and.
51:57
Corporate speak pisses me off to no one.
Like we must hear back from Home Office and Home Office decides and yes we must make the money.
And again it’s like what are you mining the earth for it?
Like why are you mining gold?
52:13
Like why is that valuable to you?
Right, exactly.
There’s no.
Reason.
There’s like no explained reason for like why that’s valuable to them.
Because again, something like gold would only be like considered valuable, the sense to humans, because like that our society like and that’s like silver and gold.
52:32
We’ve like time and memoriam.
We’ve like going on.
It’s a rare metal and we’ve turned into money.
So like what?
What’s this?
Excuse me, sophisticated, you know, cyclose doing like why is it important to them?
Oh, it’s also money too.
Like it’s just like, like just like such a brain rod.
52:52
Like I said, like there’s inklings of ideas that could be like, you know, like if somebody competent wrote it, like fine, like you can get away with it.
But like you said, it’s so poorly written.
It’s like you can’t, there’s no saving it because it’s just a somebody sitting there with like a like giant.
53:10
Like I imagine Gil from The Simpsons wrote this like fucking sweat heap sitting there.
Oh, Gil’s got to get the script written.
Yeah, we like get a pile of paper disorganized and like got the got the script guilt.
Yeah, I got it here.
Right.
53:25
Yeah.
And just handed out a bunch of mismatch pages.
Yeah.
And I also have to say that I find that the the soundtrack is exceptionally annoying as well.
It’s a very like almost industrial type techno music that I, you know, and I’m a fan of like electronics and noise and stuff like that.
53:51
But like this one has this very annoying like scraping sound that happened especially when they’re in the bar.
You know, when they’re drinking that like curbing go or whatever they’re drinking.
That’s like that green goop stuff that they like to drink in the in the background, there’s just like a scraping sound that keeps going.
54:10
It’s like super annoying, super annoying.
And like, you know, that’s a small nitpick in a scheme of bigger nitpicks of the movie itself, but it’s still really annoying.
All I could think of is because in Star Trek there’s you have to start trouble with the tribbles.
54:29
This is from the original show where Scotty gets into a drinking match with the he remember was a Klingon or a Romulan.
They’re drinking and they get down to like something and they’re like, he’s like, what’s this?
And they’re like, oh, it’s green.
54:48
It’s been a running joke in Star Trek ever since.
That’s all I was thinking about with this is like green alcohol freight, yeah.
Yeah.
Terbango.
What it?
What else?
What else?
Didn’t I?
Didn’t I bring up that you want to talk about?
55:07
You know, I think I think we covered it because this is like, I guess you said the soundtrack is abysmal and it’s ever present and it goes between John Williams like over the top, you know, sound to techno beats to just like turn them off and want to go home.
55:28
But I think that covers.
It.
Yeah.
I mean, I was saying, you know, off air, this movie is overall just a bad movie.
And it’s hard sometimes to really talk about it because it’s so bad that there’s really not that much to talk about because you don’t even really want to spend the time discussing it because it’s not really worth your while to do so.
55:50
I think we pointed out a lot of good, good things here that make this a bad movie, not just in the fact that like, Oh yes, it’s related to Scientology.
Like I really, again, like I said, couldn’t care less.
I didn’t know about it prior to watching the movie.
It was more so a thing that I found out about.
56:08
And like the movie itself has very little to do.
It’s Scientology in general.
Like you, if you watch it, it actually has very little to do with anything in general to glean like a theme out of it, like, you know, to to apply to everyday life.
It is very, you know, maybe it’s that corporate is overtaking our life.
56:25
Like the, the, you know, like you said, the corporate cyclose are super annoying and enslaving humanity and, and maybe that’s the the theme to take from it, but.
Secret socialists say Prop.
I get you.
That’s right.
But you know, overall it really does not have much going for it whatsoever and and that makes it very difficult to, you know, expound upon so.
56:47
So I’ll say before we get into the rating, yeah.
Was this a difficult film to watch?
Oh, absolutely.
It was a very difficult film.
I did spend a you know, I actually watched this in chunks, which I tend to do.
Something I told you it should have been.
57:03
It should have been a short series.
I mean, I watch, I tend to do that when movies are really difficult to get through.
But in this case I watched it in chunks.
I watched about like an hour at 1st and then I watched another, you know, 45 minutes or so.
And then I, I had, I had to like finish the last 30 minutes and it was really a chore to like, get myself to actually actively get into that last 30 minutes.
57:27
So I actually probably would not recommend watching it in chunks because it’s going to be harder for you to even, you know, get up enough courage to throw back on because it is so uninteresting to watch.
So yeah, I would say it’s definitely a difficult film to watch.
57:44
It’s just not very good.
It is painful at times, like with the acting and just how over the top dramatic it can be.
And I would say that it just, it just doesn’t grab your interest whatsoever.
How about for you?
Lucky for me, unlike you, I watched it in a sitting.
58:06
So I didn’t experience that because like you, if it is a film that I, I don’t care for it all.
I do have to like stand up, take a walk, do the dishes, like do like put like 10 minutes in between me and the films, you’d be like, OK, I can sit back down and, you know, tackle this.
58:26
So, but I, I watched it in a sitting like it is, it is a difficult film to watch because it’s just not a good film.
And not only is it not a good film, but it’s it’s it’s not enjoyable in the way the room where it’s so bad, it’s wonderful, doesn’t have that charm to it.
58:43
It’s just a bad movie.
From the acting to the soundtrack to the direction to the cinematography, everything about this film is horrible.
And it speaks volumes because as I was looking on Reddit to, it’s like rewatching this movie for the first time in forever.
59:00
Do you guys still think it’s like a difficult film?
And someone’s like, yeah, I watched it and I never thought of it again.
And that’s kind of how I’m going to think of this film because like, it’s, it’s not ever going to stick out like, you know, in my brain as an experience, let’s pick, oh, yeah, that movie was really bad.
59:18
And I never really want to think about it again.
And that’s about it.
Like, I didn’t have fun watching it.
There’s a couple of like, fun jokes between like, you know, Travolta and Forest Whitaker.
But I mean like other than that though.
I mean, it is like very bleak.
59:35
Yeah, it’s true.
All right, so let’s give this a rating on a scale of zero to 10 slow motion, because that happens more than four times in this movie.
What would you give Battlefield Earth?
59:55
3 out of 10 this is one.
This truly is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.
It’s not well made, the effects are horrible, the acting is terrible, the story is downright trash.
It’s just an unpleasant, unenjoyable film.
1:00:14
I had no fun watching it.
It made me seasick from all the Dutch angles.
I don’t know what the hell is going on.
Like it’s like it’s up there with Mako was like one of the worst films I’ve ever had to sit in The Mummy for like films I’ve ever had to sit through.
1:00:32
So 3 out of 10 I would.
That’s a stink that this film is never going to get rid of, so.
Yeah, I think I would agree.
I’m I’m going to give it like a three out of 10 as well.
I think I I meet probably have seen maybe a few worst movies, but they didn’t have the luxury of being a big budget movie.
1:00:51
This is a big budget movie that is absolutely awful.
And I think that’s a particular distinction that you have to make when you talk about bad movies.
This got through a variety of teams, production, everybody some reason greenlit this movie and I it’s astounding really.
1:01:13
It’s like that.
Who in the right mind would sit down and and just be like, yeah, let’s just do it.
But they did.
And then we got Battlefield Earth, which again, as I said before, it’s pretty much does not adhere to any like consistent filmmaking consensus of how you know how to make a film, which maybe would in some capacity be unique and make it a little bit more interesting.
1:01:39
But not in this case.
It’s still just a really boring movie.
The plot line is just not interesting and it doesn’t even do its own world world building, which you would expect if this was planned to be a two-part movie.
1:01:55
You would expect Part 1 to really emphasize the world building and it it doesn’t.
It just like completely shuts down trying to figure out what the cycles are and what who they are, what they do, why they even want gold.
It’s overall just a really boring and tedious movie and I definitely would not recommend anybody watch and spend 2 hours of their time just to find out like every what everybody already thinks that it is a bad movie and I think there is probably some curiosity to go out and see it just to see like well, what could be so bad about the movie?
1:02:32
And I mean, for some people, yes, maybe you would want to do that and probably watch it with friends because it’s just, you know, it’s not a single person experience to just like sit there and just just sit there and take it just just, you know, raw dogging.
If you’re sitting there, if you’re sitting there thinking about watching it and like, should I watch this movie?
1:02:52
Fred Gwynn Pop Sounds like you don’t want to go down that film.
Exactly.
A lot of bad things happen when you watch the FL.
No.
Definitely, I forgot it be John Lithgow these days.
Yes, yes, we’re expect cemetery too.
We have it.
I have bloodlines.
1:03:09
That’s what it is, Pet.
Sematary Bloodlines.
Wait wait, they actually made a sequel to the like what?
Whenever the hell that one came out.
I I don’t know, I didn’t watch it.
It’s, I don’t know if it’s a sequel.
Well, I mean, it is.
Yeah.
Like, like quite literally, yes.
It’s, it’s the next.
1:03:25
It’s the second movie that they made in the new remake.
Oh.
My God.
Yeah, 2020.
Three, but yeah, I haven’t watched it, but all right, so that’s Battlefield Earth and that’s.
Good films.
Hold on, we’re going to have to watch it.
1:03:43
It has Pam Greer in it.
Oh yeah, and David Duchovny.
Yeah, like I said, I have it, just haven’t watched it.
Yeah, but that does it for difficult films.
Thank God we’re done with that.
No, I’m just kidding.
1:03:58
We did a couple of films that we actually didn’t mind.
But for the most part, like again, it’s just the the looming specter of having to watch a bad movie is is a little bit yeah.
Disconcerted.
So what’s what’s on the agenda for next time?
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Do we have anything that we want to get into I.
Think we got sneak in MK2?
Yeah, at some point here probably do Mortal Kombat 2, which I’ve been hearing some pretty good things about.
People aren’t.
People aren’t minding it.
Would you like to revisit Fury Rd. seeing as gas prices or the.
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Devilene No, but I think we did talk about doing that, that one movie that I got recently.
Hey Mom, which I I think I showed to you just the other day.
1:04:51
Oh.
My God, it’s been 11 years since Fury Rd. came out of Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it’s been a while.
Hi mom is what I meant actually not.
Hey mom.
Hi Mom by Brian De Palma.
So I think that one was it would be an interesting one to cover might do that at some point.
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I.
Wow this is what is this like a fucking Jesus drawing a blank on the guy?
Like right?
Like in Corbin.
OK, looks like a Corbin though.
1:05:28
Yeah, so couple, couple of things like that in the forecast.
So hopefully we’ll get the get that going and probably take a week off yeah to recuperate from difficult films month and then be back in June.
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