For this week’s episode, we thought it was only appropriate to cover the icy cold spaghetti western The Great Silence just released by Vinegar Syndrome’s partner label Film Movement Classics. We cover this Sergio Corbucci-directed film about the titular character Silence and his quest to delete all the bounty killers from the Utah frontier. We talk about how this relates to other spag westerns, the delightfully villainous Klaus Kinski, and a lot more.
We’re also drinking Saranac Brewing’s Growler Hazy IPA, a 12 pack in the larger 16oz cans!
Approximate timeline
0:00-10:00 Intro
10:00-25:00 Beer talk/Tears of the Left and Rob Schneider divorce
25:00-end The Great Silence
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Transcript – The Great Silence (auto-generated)
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0:03
Albizonia de fermani.
0:46
Hey guys, welcome back to the Blood and Black Crumb podcast.
I’m Ryan from quoteexploitation.com and I’m joined with my Co host Martin.
How’s it going?
Partner.
Yeah, by Yeah, a little partner doing well.
Yeah, today, you know what?
First of all, let’s talk about the biting code that we’ve been having lately because that’s that’s relevant.
1:05
You know, sometimes we’re like old men talking about the weather at the beginning of the intro of the show, but this time it’s actually relevant.
So we’ve been having some extremely cold weather for, especially for our area.
I mean, it’s not super common for us to be in the the negatives most of the time, but it’s been pretty cold and we just got slammed with a bunch of snow last week, which I think also a good portion of the whole United States got slammed with snow.
1:32
It’s pretty much widespread.
I always laugh hilariously when like a storm.
Like it’s below the Mason Dixon line.
What do we do?
Freezing rain, honey, the pipes are going to freeze.
Crack the book or crack the cabinets open and it’s like, you know.
1:49
We can all be experts in the.
Well, you know, it’s just funny.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
And.
You go, you go, you go.
Tell that to the people that live up in the like by the Great Lakes or I don’t like the total plateau, you know?
I mean, you see.
The snow, I say.
I saw a picture after that storm, like there was a guy standing at Oswego.
2:08
It already gets ham, you know, Hammer fucked with snow.
But they the, the snow banks were like over like 7 feet tall.
It was like a guy and a half.
Like for height, you know, it’s true.
It’s just, it’s just funny.
I mean, I will say that, you know, it’s the same way up here, even with the storm coming, like the shelves were bare, people were flying, flying into the stores, ripping things off the shelves because we’re going to have maybe 2 days where you couldn’t easily get out of your house.
2:38
So it happens here too, even though we get a lot more snow than some other places.
That was the one nice thing though, that we didn’t get any of the.
I was afraid with the store we would get the some mixed stuff, but it was just two feet of powder so it wasn’t.
But the the reason the reason I bring it up is because we’re covering a spaghetti western today that is set in the snow set in Utah in like, you know, it doesn’t say when, but I’m going to guess January sometime sounds right to me.
3:12
And that’s not very common for a spaghetti western to have a snow setting.
You know, generally you think of them being dusty and, you know, sweaty.
A lot of times people are just overall sweaty in those movies, you know, and you know, so it’s it’s kind of refreshing to see a snow based spaghetti western an idea like you said, the only other ones, I can’t really think of that many off the top of my head.
3:38
The only other ones that I could think of and know with the one that’s obviously boast probably widely recognized now is, you know, Red Dead Redemption 2 was, you know, used snow to its advantage and its storyline quite a bit.
3:56
So that’s the only like the major Western style that I can think of that also you snow like as a big part of this, the plots.
And but shit.
4:14
Lost it.
Unforgiven.
Yes.
And though I haven’t seen it, I’ve they hatefully.
Yeah, I have not seen that either.
I have that’s, that’s been one that I’ve have not checked out yet.
So it’s interesting.
I did, I did watch part of the Adam Sandler knock off that he they did.
4:34
I can’t remember what that was called even, but I fell asleep during it and I didn’t watch all of it, but I I did see a part of that.
Yeah.
So, but today we’re talking about a spaghetti western that just recently released on 4K from vinegar syndromes like partner label for a film movement classics.
4:55
It came out a couple weeks ago and it was a big part of their like their end of the year, the sale that they do where they they they do like subscriber sign ups and stuff like that.
And you know, I bought it because for one thing, people were really hailing it as a really great spaghetti western just when I haven’t seen before, when I hadn’t even really heard of before.
5:17
And not only that, I knew that it was going to sell out because I had a limited run.
And, you know, it was just flying off the, so you could just watch the numbers tick down as it was because they, they had a limited number of, of options there.
And so I, I bought it and you know what, sure enough, it did sell out.
5:34
And now they’re selling for like $200 on eBay.
So you definitely, it’s going to have a tough time getting that free.
But I’m talking about the 1968 spaghetti Western from Sergio Corbucci called Illinois Grande Silencio, or more cloakily known in English as The Great Silence.
5:58
I think you meant Illinois Grande silencio.
Yes, yes.
Or said by the, you know, whoever’s dubbing Klaus Kinski in the Italian version.
I don’t know.
It’s had a very, very specific type of voice in this this movie.
6:16
So yeah, great silence.
Like I said, I have never actually heard of the great silence before.
It’s something that’s never really popped up for me.
But it was, you know, directed by Corabucci, who I, as I said, it is actually a pretty well known name in Italian cinema, specifically within the spaghetti Western genre.
6:40
He, you know, very specifically directed Django, the the original Django, the first one, the one that’s, you know, started it all for the other Django’s that were to come, which we did do.
When was that like a couple, like maybe a year now.
Yeah, about a year since we’ve done this episode, I think when we made that accidental and we we were going to do the other Django movie that we’d already done before and we were like, oh shit.
7:08
So we we pivoted and we did regular Django, vanilla Django.
But yeah, I mean, again, Korbucci pretty well known in the spaghetti Western genre.
It’s even this, the great silence is actually even considered like part of a a trilogy of films.
7:24
Like unofficially, they weren’t really, you know, made as a trilogy, but a trilogy of films in the spaghetti western genre that were actually pretty notable, you know, Django being one of them.
And and, you know, I think we’ll talk as we’ll talk about the Great Silence is another one of those movies in his wheelhouse that’s, you know, very well done and very classic spaghetti western style with A twist.
7:46
Have you ever heard of the Great Silence before?
Has that ever popped up in your, you know, perusing of spaghetti restaurants?
Negative.
It has not, you know, so I didn’t really have any expectations going into it.
8:02
Nice clean slate, nothing to poison or taint my viewing experience of this.
So that’s actually a good thing, especially when it comes to a movie that you end up liking.
So yeah.
And by the way, as the historian of the podcast, we did the first Django two years and two days to the date, so wow.
8:24
OK, so right on with the spaghetti westerns there.
One thing that does make me laugh about this movie too, just looking at the, you know, the production of it is that it was written by like 4 different people.
You know, Corbucci came up with the story and then, you know, four other people, including I believe his brother Bruno, were involved in the screenplay to some extent.
8:47
You know, that’s, that’s a lot of people to to write screenplays with, but you know.
I mean, that’s just the Italian way you think of like they, they, you put the in a movie and it’s like, Bam Dario, what’d you do for, you know, Once Upon a time in the West I wrote 3 lines and they’re like, give him a credit.
9:07
Right, that’s true too.
And even, and even IMDb makes in reference to the fact that, you know, for the English version, they change the dialogue a little bit.
And there’s actually, they give credit to the dialogue writers of the English version too.
So interesting distinction there.
9:26
I, I like that that, you know, they, they, they had to change.
It’s not like I watched the Italian version.
It’s not like the Italian version is so like distinctive and like Italian Y that they had to really redo some of the dialogue.
But you know, I guess they were afraid Americans just wouldn’t understand.
9:45
So some of the references anyway.
We got to make sure everyone’s like a hip cat like, you know, you know, that’s knows what’s going on.
Yeah.
Let’s see, what else?
Who else?
Who does The Who does the music for this?
10:01
For this movie?
I bet you can’t guess.
I think it’s this new up and coming guy that’s been doing music for films.
Yeah.
Never.
You didn’t really took off, you know, never really took off.
10:21
Poor guy Eddie Omari Cohen, you know.
Actually.
Just left to the just left to the dust spin of time.
Yeah, and as you mentioned too, also the composure of The Hateful 8.
So again, I’m I’m I’m going to assume that Tarantino was partially influenced by The great Silence as well for that movie.
10:40
Like I said, we we have neither of us have seen it, but going to guess based on all those items that Tarantino is a fan for better or worse, for the great, you know, as he continues to saunter down the the surly surly lane.
10:58
Yeah, you don’t want just be like, OK, Grandpa?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
You’re right.
Paul Dano isn’t a good actor.
Grandpa, time for bed.
That’s right.
You know, yeah.
Anything else you want to add at the beginning of the you know for the intro of this before we get into the the beer talk and other discussion?
11:18
No, so I mean we can like I said that I didn’t have any expectations.
You just said told me me like I want to do a nice Spaghett Western said let’s do it.
And then when he told me what it was, I’m like, I have no idea.
11:35
In fact, I even made a joke to you today as you’re giving me the Blu-ray.
It was like, you know, just I wonder, like what film this says.
I, you know, usually these Italian films that we do here are the ones that have like a paragraph on Wikipedia that said I was wrong.
11:54
And it has like a 30 page thesis for Wikipedia, you know?
So Yep, I was wrong, yeah.
Did you?
Did you know anything about it?
No, like I said, I I hadn’t heard of it until I saw it being released by by vinegar syndrome’s partner label.
12:14
And then so then I was like, you know what, I gotta, I gotta check this out.
It’s spaghetti Western looks really interesting.
So I was like, OK, I’m I’ll grab it.
It is a blind eye for me and happy I did so as we’ll talk about and also serendipitously, I just wanted to point out too, I did have spaghetti tonight for dinner.
12:32
So it’s really it prepared me, it got me ready to talk spaghetti Westerns, Western D Spaghett as I like spaghett.
Should we should we give Tim Heidecker a check every time you say that?
12:48
Yeah, Spaghett.
Or do you think he’s got enough money?
I think he’s probably, he must have enough money if he’s just doing office hours every day, right?
It’s like don’t know if it’s rated.
Than the dough.
It’s a passion project.
13:04
Yeah, exactly, exactly just like this, like this.
But yeah, the God now I want spaghetti I haven’t had.
Like spaghetti and like meatballs and like forever.
I know it’s great.
Sit down with a nice spaghetti western and a bowl of spaghetti and you are a bowl of spaghetti or a plate spaghetti person.
13:28
Depends.
Like if you’re just eating that, then yeah, bowl.
But if you have like a nice salad, salad, some garlic bread or whatever stuff or knots and yeah, you know, bun plate.
We’re we’re generally a plate, purse, plate, spaghetti people.
13:46
Like a lot of pasta, I, I don’t know a bowl.
So because if I’m just like if I make like chicken riggies or something, then it’s like.
Yeah, it makes sense.
It makes sense.
And I think it the sides of the the bowl do help to kind of twirl that spaghetti around and yeah, get in.
14:02
But.
I guess that’s neither here nor there.
I just curious what kind of spaghetti fan use, but you know, kind of spaghetti person are you?
Listen, I had to be fair, too.
I think one of the reasons why I haven’t had in forever is Angel hair.
You know, it’s just not one of my favorite pastas.
14:17
It’s OK.
I, I think, you know, penne rotini Rigatoni, like, you know, they all like have, you know, are better vessels for things.
Get the sauce, sauce and to the crooks and like the vegetables and all that you know.
No one’s saying you have to have Angel hair.
14:33
You could have thin spaghetti, you could have spaghetti.
You could have linguini, you could have fettuccine, You could have.
Well, that’s not spaghetti and.
Some other regular you know, regular spaghetti.
Do you love a nice fettuccine Alfredo?
Yeah, yeah, the fettuccine is, again, that’s a nice delivery vessel for the cheese sauce because it’s got to be thick and it’s got to kind of catch it all.
14:54
So it makes sense.
Somebody really sat down and thought about the logistics of and delivery methods of fettuccine and they said, you know what, this is really well suited for a nice little Alfredo.
What anyway?
What about gnocchi?
15:12
I love, I love gnocchi.
I love it.
I’m a big fan of it.
Those little larvas that you just fill with pesto, you know, top with pesto and pop in your mouth.
I do love the no food.
All.
15:28
Right, with that said, let’s get on to our beer discussion here.
So for this one’s episode, I did go, I got I got some beer and actually it was just kind of something that I was looking for, you know, a 12 pack, something that I wanted to grab that I would have available, especially because of the storm coming up and I knew I was running out of beer.
15:46
So it’s like, yeah, let me grab something that’s going to last a little bit.
So I went to our local grocery store and I grabbed this, the Saranac Growler, which I’ve been seeing all over the place, right?
Like I, I, I get a lot of ads on Facebook from Saranac.
16:01
That’s like check out our new Saranac Growler beer, Like it’s 33% bigger than normal and stuff like that.
It’s like, you know, kind of this new thing that they’re trying to to, you know, package it in tall boy cans, but you know, make it the same price as regular 12 packs of beer.
16:18
And I think that’s a cool idea.
I like the idea.
There’s I’m never going to say no to having 12 beers in 12 packs. 16 ounce 12 pack you got?
I am, I’m wondering about the the like the overhead costs for Saranac on these things.
Like is it actually not that much more expensive to just make a, a, you know, a tall boy pack instead of a regular size can pack?
16:42
Because again, you got to think about like some of these other places where they only really make 4 packs of beer with the tall boys.
Like, you know, if you did want to make a 12 pack of regular cans, now you got to buy all those smaller kit.
You know, the regular size cans you got to, you know, you got to have packaging for regular size cans, labeling you got to get for regular size cans.
17:03
And I’m just thinking like, what maybe it is more cost effective to just like, you know, have a giant batch that you brew and you just put them in bigger cans.
You know, what’s the overhead like on this?
That’s something that like the one dude that does TikTok.
So I used to watch like a guy from Chicago worked for Revolution Brewing.
17:21
He that’s probably something he would break down of, like here’s the cost analysis.
Well, maybe it’s like with like potato chip bags, the bigger they get, the less that’s in like, you know, so it’s like, yeah, I got the family size bag of chips and it’s like it’s still the same amount of chips in there.
17:37
They just stretched it down.
So yeah, maybe like, you know, they had that extra aluminum, but they didn’t, you know, yeah, really showing up with beer.
I don’t know, I just, I, I mean I think it’s a cool idea for sure.
I just, I wonder about the logistics of it and, and how, you know, maybe it’s more cost effective because again, this was not more expensive than a regular 12 pack of beer, even though you’re getting the tall boy cans.
17:59
In fact, it ended up being cheaper than the rest of the beers that were there because they were also on sale at Hannaford.
So, you know, it was all around just a much better deal.
And so I guess the only people that would be put off by this are people that don’t sit down and have a tall boy.
18:15
They’re like, wow, that’s just too much beer for me.
You know that I cannot sit down and have a Yeah.
What is it, like 22 oz or whatever?
I don’t even know this.
Yeah.
What is it?
Wait, what?
18:30
It’s. 22 ounces.
I don’t even know, no.
It’s wouldn’t it be 16?
I don’t know.
Is it 16?
I don’t know.
It doesn’t even say Oh yeah, yeah, 16, yeah, it’s it’s just one pint.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, it’s not like a tall like.
18:46
It’s not like the big, big ones.
Yeah.
No, I was.
Yeah.
You said 33% bigger, so that’d be true.
Oh.
My Lord, I don’t know.
I know there are people, and there used to be people like that, who would justify getting those little minis, right?
Like the little.
19:02
All the ponies.
Yeah, and it’s like I just can’t drink that much.
I can’t drink a whole 12 ounce beer.
I need an 8 oz beer.
It’s like a dude, what the fuck?
You’re at the you’re at the bowling alley and like, hey, hey, I got a bucket of ponies.
Got 12 ponies in there.
19:17
It’s.
Like yeah, you’re like, I can’t, I can’t.
I just can’t drink a 12 ounce beer.
What I got do go get 48 oz for you.
It’s like Harold and Hey Arnold when he was like trying to lose weight and he’s like eats like 8 like Mr. Fudgy bars, but then he’s like, oh, it takes 16 of the sugar free one.
19:35
Yeah, because it has half the calories.
And then Arnold’s like, you know, you’re just doing the same.
And he’s like, leave me alone, you know?
Yeah, that’s the whole idea, Yeah.
But anyway, yes, the Saranac Growler is a hazy IPA.
Like we said, it’s in 16 ounce cans, 6.8%, you know, And again, I think the whole idea behind this is basically just the can size.
19:58
I don’t think the actual beer inside of it is like really all that different from some of their other hazies that they’ve created.
So what I will say is it’s a tasty hazy, maybe on the bitter side a little bit.
It’s got a little bit of a bitter after taste to it, but I think it goes down smooth enough, especially for a 16 ounce can like this.
20:19
I think it’s sessionable enough where you would want to, you know, you’re good to go through a 1116 oz can and I quite like it.
And I think I would probably swing for this again because I think it’s a, you know, it’s got a quality brew to it for a good reasonable price.
20:37
So I I definitely think I’d look for this again if I was looking for something just to stock my fridge with.
How about you?
Yeah, it’s not bad.
It tastes a lot like they’re hazies.
It’s not, you know, overly juicy, like nothing like big on the fruits to your right.
20:55
It does have like a bitterness to it, like a West Coast, like the hoppiness to it, like kind of like a mosaic.
Nice enough finish.
Don’t feel like that 6.8 too much.
So yeah, it’s nice enough.
21:11
It’s I think you know, as a 12 pack of 16 of them, 16 ounces good deal.
Can’t beat it for, you know, if you’re looking for just like all around the middle of the road hazy.
I will say a lot of people, if you’re not a front of the area, I mean that don’t get Saranac growlers also a reference too, because they used to and really this is one of the things I used to like about them.
21:40
They would put actual growlers out for sale.
Like you could buy their seasonals in a like 24 oz growler and it came with a little kit cap and everything.
So you could get like their s’mores Porter for, you know, the fall and then you bet sitting by the key of fire and like got a growler this.
22:01
I want to be good for the night, you know, and I like to that they have a bear on it like, you know, to like growler looks kind of a like ecto cooler, like with the font and stuff.
So yeah.
22:19
Like it, I like it.
I like this trend.
I hope they bring more trends in this for I like the reasonable price.
Especially in this.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Maybe that’s, I would say maybe that’s like Trump doesn’t understand affordability because he doesn’t drink.
22:37
So he doesn’t know that the market is, you know, just.
Terrible.
Terrible.
Also true.
Also true.
You know, I don’t like what’s that the Bills lost.
True.
And now I heard the Super Bowls cancel so that’s so weird.
22:55
Just cancel it.
You might as well.
Trump won’t be in attendance.
You might as well just.
Cancel it.
I’m going to make sure to be one of those people for like the halftime show and Bad Bunny pops on, put the hat and glasses on like so I, you know, fit the I’m not watching this.
23:14
Crowd, the other thing that we have to get to that we’ve talked about for we need to get for the show is the tears of the left whiskey that Rob Schneider is putting.
Yeah.
And you know what too?
23:30
I I should point out he really needs this because he his wife is just divorcing him.
So she really to buy this bourbon.
Did she really?
Yeah.
Yeah, it’s just OK, I think like today or yesterday or something.
23:45
So funny thing, when I was listening to Mr. Majority Report today, they were talking about the guy that sprayed Ilhan Holmar with apple cider vinegar.
And you’re like, Oh, yeah, he was drunk and like blasted like, Oh yeah, they were looking up his stuff.
24:06
Washington Post said, like he’s just recently divorced.
And Sam was like, Jesus Christ.
Because if you want no way to find out if someone’s falling down the right wing pipeline if they’re in their 40s or 50s, it just went through a divorce and things are spiraling out.
They’re probably conservative, you know, so.
24:26
Hilarious.
I love it.
And then yeah, Oh my God, I didn’t even realize they also have a Kevin Sorbo edition of it.
Yeah, I, I, I haven’t seen that, but I know he’s a spot.
I, I, I know he’s a sponsor, so.
I didn’t even recognize him to be honest with you.
24:42
He just looked like some other dipshit in a suit, like, you know that?
They got listen, they got they.
There’s three other players who have not been unlocked yet that are going to sign up.
I fucking with it, Yeah, it’s a whole grift.
It’s like $100 to get like a stupid box with a passport of like, how many deers did you trigger today?
25:04
It’s fucking I love.
It look at that, it’s like a Crown Royal RIP off with the bottle and the label.
Like, like there’s definitely no way I would ever pay $100 for it, you know, just to have on the show.
But like if I, if somebody was like nice enough to just gift it for us and like or just steal it, like I would be fine with somebody just stealing.
25:23
Fucking $100.
Wait, hold on.
Hold.
On.
The website hasn’t like price cut from $100 to 9999.
Yeah.
I love.
God, ridiculous of it is just is awesome.
25:40
It’s great.
We need to have it on the show, but we need to absolutely make sure that we say like no tears have left was actually purchased here.
In fact, we had somebody, you know, steal it so.
I love it.
God like this is.
25:56
So fucking stupid if yeah if so many were to get us the tiers of the left so I didn’t have to have it on my credit card.
I donate $100 to the, you know the the charity of your choice instead.
All.
Right.
26:11
Anyway.
You would think, you would, you would think like if you’re like, here’s Kevin Sorbo, like maybe that would be like tears of the left, right or like, shit, Yeah, like.
You know, at least different type.
No, yeah, no.
It’s just like the, the, you know, the what, what they call like the ghost whiskey or a bit basically just like moonshine.
26:31
No, it’s just the exact same bottle, exact same everything.
It’s just like Kevin Sorbo improved on this one.
Do you, do you think like the people the distillers were like, they’re very like?
Yes, probably.
Yeah.
Whoever they contracted, he’s just like what the fuck are you guys?
26:49
Doing oh, OK, just make the whiskey whatever.
So OK, so they have this we’re going to do a deep dive on this.
They have the Rob Schneider edition is the commie tear stone edition.
The Sorbo 1 is the snowflake edition.
27:08
They have a globalist 1, Ade I-1 in a feminist 1.
Yeah, I really like they have the woman looking very stern.
Yeah.
They haven’t revealed yet who?
Who is that going to be?
I don’t know but it has like the purple haired like potato cat air thing.
27:25
A little like egg with purple hair and a rainbow sash.
And the other sad thing is that they had to pay a web dev big bucks to make this site because it’s actually pretty well made.
It’s it’s like the web devs, Oh my God, what the fuck?
27:42
So they, they have to use their talents for something like this.
The other thing though too is I do like all the AI generated images that they got on here too.
But it’s.
Great, it’s great.
Check it out.
Tears to theleft.com.
You definitely really want to check that out and see it’s, it’s, it’s really goofy.
28:02
Join the club.
I’m really triggered by it, I’ll tell you that.
I can’t.
I’m so triggered.
Somebody told Rob Schneider that look, that hat looks.
Good.
You know, it’s like the third one.
The Globalist 1 looks like it could be Conor McGregor.
28:18
He’s a yeah, it does, doesn’t it?
Yeah, yeah.
The the the hat on Rob Schneider looks like he’s a third rate magician like.
Or comedian.
That’s like I can’t say fag anymore.
You’re describing Rob Schneider.
What do?
28:34
You damn it alright, anyway.
We got to talk about the great silence here, which again, would be a great thing for Rob Schneider to do, is just go silent.
It’s like the protagonist of this movie.
28:51
I meant actually what I meant to say was Illinois Grande silencio.
I love that.
I love the the Italian name of the great silence.
It’s great.
I love whenever they say like Silenzio.
If you’re watching the Italian dub, I love it and I also love to this movie.
29:08
You know, the Italian dub and this is a movie that was has a lot of variety to it.
It’s not, you know, they don’t just have Italian actors.
They’ve also clearly have some English speaking actors.
They have Klaus Kinski definitely not speaking Italian in this movie.
29:25
And, you know, just like watching the Italian dub, it’s great too, because you could tell all of these disparate elements are coming together to make this movie because all of these are really collaborations between American, Spanish, Italian, French.
It’s great.
29:40
We should learn from that.
It’s a melting pot of spaghetti westerns, you know, should be more accepting of different cultures anyway.
The Great Silence, 1968 Sergio Carbucci.
So the, the name really caught me off guard when I was watching the movie because of quite quite literally, I was just expecting this to be like, oh, it’s you know, it’s a play on the Utah winter landscapes, the great Silence, you know, the draping snow, snow that covers everything and, you know, makes it nice and quiet.
30:12
And, you know, and that’s part of the the idea as well.
But more so it’s just that the name comes from the main character whose name is Silence or Silencio is he’s adopted this name because pretty quickly into the movie, they show you that, oh, he’s had his throat slit, so he’s actually mute.
30:32
He can’t talk.
Yeah, you know, that’s that’s why he’s silent.
Man, it’s nice that the snowy weather so you have a reason for him to be wearing the scarf that he does.
Right, yes, to to cover up his scar.
So it’s kind of like that that reveal too is kind of nice throughout.
30:49
And and you know, it’s kind of also a play on a lot of the other stranger type spaghetti western films of like they’re quiet.
They’re you know, they’re mysterious.
You don’t really know what they’re thinking.
You know, in this case, he literally cannot tell you what he’s thinking or feeling.
31:06
So you know, it’s a it it, it works with the character as well to just make him silent, to make him you.
He didn’t know sign language.
What an asshole.
That’s true.
You know, he doesn’t, he doesn’t even try to like give any sort of verbal or visual cues.
31:25
He just, you know, he just is like you’ll figure it out.
You know, the only thing that he really does is pull the scarf down like, you know, to explain why he’s not talking.
Other than that, he just is very happy with with just, you know, being quiet and no one really wonders about him.
31:47
But but yeah, I mean, I think again, so we’ve talked, we talked a little bit about Django.
This is, again, you know, sort of like the whole idea behind like the Clint Eastwood gimmick, you know, of this mysterious stranger comes into town.
32:03
In this case, you know, people know about silence.
He has kind of a cult following behind him.
And he’s a guy who people just talk about because he kills bounty hunters.
Basically.
He just is, you know, that’s kind of his main mission.
32:19
He just travels around and he’s like, well, there’s a bounty hunter around here.
I guess I’ll kill him.
You know, it’s just kind of, it’s kind of his job at this point.
He’s a He’s a bounty hunter.
Bounty hunter, No bounty.
Killers.
Oh yeah, sorry, the the bounty killers.
32:38
They don’t, they don’t take anybody alive.
No.
Hey, man.
Hey, you know, if you bring a man, it’s dead, It’s $20.00.
But if you bring a man alive, it’s 1000.
Yeah.
Well, you know, fuck, it’s.
Yeah.
And, and that’s kind of the whole idea of the movie is that there’s just, like a rampant surge in bounty hunters, bounty killers that are just running amok in this Utah area and just, like, just killing people left and right.
33:06
And then when they kill them, they bring them in.
And they said, well, I don’t know.
You said dead or, you know, you said or alive.
I did.
I chose to do the easier one.
No, no, no, no, no.
I’m a Bounty Killer, not a bounty hunter.
That’s right.
I only have one means.
33:23
And I, you know, I again, the main, the main villain, the main character Bounty Killer, bounty hunter is Claus Kitsky’s character Loco, who I guess from name alone, you’re already like guy doesn’t sound like a good character.
You know, he sounds a little suspicious with a name like Loco, and he’s basically just running around and like Willy nilly just grabbing bounty posters off the walls and just like, all right, let me find that guy.
33:52
Let me find that guy.
Let me find that guy.
Dude.
The kind of comical extent because there’s this one scene at the beginning of the movie where he’s basically just murdered like 4 people, just like shot them all down.
And then the sheriff’s coming into town because he’s been assigned this because basically it’s become an issue at this point.
34:09
It’s like, all right, there’s a lot of people dying over here.
Like what should we do about this?
And he basically they, they have like the Stagecoach that they’re just putting these dead bodies on like as Claus Kinsey’s just like, no, I got another one over here.
You’re going to need to strap that on the top of the Stagecoach as well.
34:27
And we got to bring him back into town because I got to have proof that I murdered these folk.
It’s, you know, it’s like kind of kind of a free for all.
It’s kind of the same idea of like what people kind of think of as the Wild West, right, Of just like blatant disregard for law of.
34:45
And at this time it was a actually a law that said it was OK.
It’s just like, yeah, your neighbors been assigned A bounty.
You can kill him if you want to.
You know, it’s it was kind of the lay of the land at that time.
35:02
And also.
Too, I was going to say the film does take place in like 18981899.
So the whole like Red Dead Redemption, you know, civilizations coming, you know, to tame the West whether you like it or not.
35:18
And the end is near is a big theme in this film of you know that the West is dying.
Yeah, so I mean the old.
Ways are going to be gone soon.
That’s that’s basically where the sheriff, Sheriff Gideon Burnett comes into play because he’s basically been assigned to come up here and, you know, ultimately put a stop to the madness that’s going on.
35:43
And so that’s that’s another issue that, you know, people like Klaus Kinski’s character have in this movie is that like they’ve got this, you know, big shot coming into town.
You know, it’s going to put up some new laws and, you know, force everybody to live the way that they think they should.
35:59
And that was, you know, especially for people who sort of lived on the outskirts of the law, it’s kind of a a chief complaint for them because that’s how they made their money basically.
And I think like, you know, to the the film really goes into the fact that like while they had a sheriff in this area, it’s the town’s really run by this one guy named Polycut, who is basically they they call him like the the user who is like kind of the lone guy.
36:33
He’s kind of he’s the guy that pays for the bounties.
He’s he’s kind of an everything man and he runs like a store.
And you know, old time I have.
I have everyone’s favorite salt and pork.
Yeah, yeah.
You can’t afford that, miss, because your husband’s dead.
36:50
Don’t worry, I’ll loan you $10.
You only have to pay me 20 and fuck me later.
That’s right.
Have a nice day and I I love the way that they made this nice Luigi Pastilli look in this movie as the.
Those fucking sideburns coming to like the top of his lip like like horns on a devil or like a bowl like.
37:11
He’s Russian.
He’s wearing almost like a Russian style, you know, hat as well.
It’s great.
You know, they made them clearly look like a villain.
And then not only that, he has like this scar that comes around by where is like where the sideburns and it’s great.
37:28
Like he it looks great.
Oh, and then also like the Pence Nez that he wears too, like those little glasses that he’s got on.
They’re like very small, like circular glasses that he wears.
They all come together for like, OK, this is a, you know, a real douche bag.
A douche bag.
Yeah.
And, and I, I like too, that the whole idea behind him in this town is basically like, yeah, he’s doing this and he’s making money, but what does he really want to do?
37:53
He just wants to have sex with you.
Know one girl, The one.
Woman in town, this is like that’s the the his main goal in this movie is, is to have sex with her.
And it’s like an overarching obsession for him that he just, you know, you know, he tracks throughout the whole movie like that’s his and that’s basically his character, right.
38:16
They don’t really, they don’t really do much more to to develop him or anything like that.
They just kind of yeah, that’s that’s who he is.
He just wants to have sex with a black woman for some reason.
Like, you know, and again, this movie, it incorporates a black female protagonist, which is not very common either for spaghetti westerns.
38:39
I think that that’s sort of, I can’t think of another.
You say?
Or films in general in the sick late 60s.
Oh yeah, that too.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, I, I can’t think of another film in at least in the spaghetti western style that really incorporated a black female protagonist.
38:58
You know, it was always sort of like a sort of, you know what a white woman in like a, you know, a Spanish esque town that was like, why?
Why is she there?
But in this case, yeah, it’s Vanetta McGee, who is also pretty well known in a lot of, you know, blaxploitation films of the time, starred in a number of films, including Blacula and Shaft in Africa.
39:26
She was also known.
I think it’s a cool incorporation into the great silence.
And she, you know, obviously again, it’s become sort of like this love interest for the Stranger, which is, you know, fairly common for spaghetti Western style movies like this.
But you know, I’d say it’s a cool.
39:43
Day took a day of my husband being dead.
She has to to move on.
That’s right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She’s she’s Erica Kirk over here.
She’s like, well, he’s gone.
39:59
I’ve got to find something else you know to be.
Honest, I was kind of hoping that they that they wouldn’t do that.
Like, you know, like, ’cause, you know, silence is silence and Yep, you know, ’cause it seemed like it was.
But until Silence got hurt and she’s being all womanly to him, taking care of.
40:19
Medical, medical stuff that she does.
Yeah, Nurse Nightingale and then all you know.
Yeah.
So yeah, I I agree.
I think that the the actual like the inclusion of a romance is sort of like at odds with the character of Silence because again, he’s really painted intentionally and really one-dimensional elements.
40:45
Like you don’t know much about him.
That’s on purpose.
You do get a flashback sequence to really showcase like why he goes after bounty hunters and stuff and his, you know, his, his obsession.
But it’s really quick and it’s not really, you know, it doesn’t really go much into his character.
41:02
Just basically literally spells out why he has been cut in the throat.
Which is a great bit.
It’s like he has to like the same amount of tension as like Once Upon a Time in the West.
One like Henry Fonda’s gang shows up and, you know, slowly murders the whole family and it’s just the kids left.
41:22
You know, here he’s a kid and his father gets shot and killed and so does his mother by, you know, Polka and some other bounty hunters and.
You think the kids going to talk?
And he’s like, no.
And he pulls a knife out.
41:39
Yeah, it’s great.
Yeah.
And I agree.
I think like the great science really revels in this very quiet tension.
You know, some people might call the great science, you know, something like slow.
It is a, you know, a slower moving, slower paced film.
41:57
It doesn’t incorporate a lot of like territory or scenery or anything like that.
It’s really very moderately moving throughout and it kind of stays in this one location and Snow Hill, Utah, where, you know, the town is situated and it doesn’t make a lot of movements outside of that.
42:17
So I, you know, some people might call it slow.
I think it’s very deliberate though.
I think that the whole idea behind it set in the snow, you know, a very quiet but slowly ramping tension that it has is very nice.
42:34
I think it’s a kind of a unique spaghetti western in this style.
You know, it’s it’s definitely still and like we said, the the sort of Clint Eastwood Stranger or Django style in that it has the centralized figure that the film keeps coming back to in silence.
42:50
But at the same time, it really focuses equally on Loco as a person, which ends up making a lot more sense as you get to the conclusion of the movie.
For the film to really put a focus on Loco as a person, how he acts, what kinds of things that he does throughout the movie to showcase like sort of what a Bounty Killer actually does.
43:14
Because it ends up making a lot more sense at the outset when you you know, you get to the end and you find out like, silence isn’t winning this one.
You know what?
I was saying which, sorry, I’m wrong.
That’s like the difference in this film when it I can’t remember where Django was.
43:32
I think was it Django or the Django the bastard where Django gets like the shit really beat out of but like Clint Eastwood, like as the silent stranger, like never really gets like, you know, the shit beat out of him.
He’s not like, you know, allowed to have like that level of weakness.
43:51
Like Silence is definitely not that protagonist yet because he may be a bad ass and a gunslinger, but he also gets his shit, you know, properly kicked in so.
Yeah, I, I mean, I think I, I, I actually kind of like that, you know, like, because again, I think part of the idea behind the great silence is to really surprised the viewer in that, you know, the film does make a pretty distinctive point to at least early on showcase silence as like a, you know, gunslinger.
44:24
He’s, he’s a guy who everybody knows he at the beginning of the movie, he takes out like 5 people right in a row, right?
That, that are attacking this band of people who have been ostracized from this, the town.
And they kind of live out in the outskirts in the snow and have to make do with whatever they can find.
44:42
And the town is labeled them as bandits.
Especially, you know, because that’s the, the modus operandi that Polycot her works under is that if I, if I ostracize people, they’re obviously have no food.
So they’re going to want to steal food.
44:59
And then we could just slap a bounty on them and you know, and then we make our money that way.
Like it’s, it’s a really easy work.
Yeah, we don’t.
As I said, we don’t, we don’t know why they’re out.
They’re called outlaws, the called called bandits.
But we don’t know what they did because they don’t really, you know, which is again, though, the great point and twist of the film is because the bandits, you know, the those who are on the other side of the law aren’t the ones that you are looking at to see get the justice.
45:32
Right, right.
Because of the system is corrupted and broken in a mess.
Yeah, so they’ve just it doesn’t say so it doesn’t even matter.
I like so I don’t even think like if they even like boldly stayed like they were just farmers who were like, we don’t have any food in this Blizzard like and stole something, pull, cut, put a bounty on all of them to die.
45:51
Like, you don’t even need that because it doesn’t matter.
Because when you see the bounty hunters, the bounty killers show up and what they do, it doesn’t matter what, you know, the so-called outlaws did because what they’re doing is, you know, yeah, beyond reproach.
46:07
Yeah.
And I mean, I think they kind of make it known here and there.
They just say like, Oh yeah, they’re hungry, they’re going to come and steal your food.
And that’s sort of like the that’s the whole idea of the scapegoat from, you know, any kind of, you know, fascist scapegoat element is that we need some group of people, some poor bastards that we said they are the problem.
46:27
They’ve done it.
They’ve they’ve come and they’ve stolen your food and now we need to get rid of them because they’re like rats and we don’t want them to keep coming back and stealing our food.
And then, you know, for a a little bit, the townspeople are like, OK, they do.
They do keep taking the bread sometimes.
46:44
And, you know, then they kind of go along with it.
And then obviously it becomes more of an issue later on when they see like, wait a second, these guys are just starving out in the the cold and they’re coming here and they want some food.
And maybe we should just leave them some food because it’s easier than having them have to, you know, break in and steal things.
47:02
And I think that’s, you know, that again, that’s that becomes the crux of the position is like the film does a lot of 180’s on you.
And like, no, they’re not actually outlaws.
Like they’re they’re labeled as such, but you know, they’re not doing anything wrong.
Whereas the bounty hunters who are perfectly within their legal rights to go out and murder all these people are obviously sadistic bastards.
47:23
Like, you know, Klaus Kinski is always great at playing sort of like this sadistic, psychopathic character who, you know, kind of has, you know, like he has a personality to him, but at the same time he has this like quiet evilness that, you know, pervades his his whole character.
47:42
I think he does a great job here as loco too.
And and not only that, but you have to applaud like sort of like the costumery and stuff of him wearing that ridiculous.
Like it almost looks like chainmail of like an executioner that he’s wearing.
And I think the character’s pointed out a couple times they’re like he’s wearing like a ladies poncho or something that they point out that he’s wearing.
48:03
But it’s great.
He he looks suitably demented and does a great job portraying it as well.
Well, it’s because of that idiotic bull cock that he has like that that that fucking kid and Pat Garrett and Billy, the kids got nothing on.
48:18
I’m like, maybe that’s who he grew up, grew up to be like, you know, I just never found a good Barber and he gets teased and that’s why he’s all loco.
That’s.
Right.
The one they say.
Another part too, though, they talk about like a little bit that also coincides with like all of that stuff with the outlaws, is that there’s a new governor who’s looking to grant Amstita all the outlaws and stuff.
48:46
But he’s trying.
He wants to get everything under, you know, Right, Proper law and order and do it right before doing that.
And again, that’s where like the whole, I know this predates it is an inspiration for it, but that’s where the whole Red Dead Redemption, you know, both one and two, civilization, the state is coming to, you know, bring civilization, whether you like it or not.
49:14
We’re going to centralized things bring it, you know, like we like because the whole idea when you think about it is like, well, the because it would have been like, I think when like it was still like the Utah Territory.
So it would have been like a big swath of area that you know, where it’s like kind of makes a little bit more sense to have, you know, local bounty hunters going fine and track down and, you know, reprobates and malcontents.
49:39
But as as as you have like telegraphs, railroads, etcetera, growing, you know, the state doesn’t need to have put bounties up for people for crimes that are committed.
They can do it on their own and bring them to justice under the actual.
Right.
Like, you know, the actual legal.
49:55
System so I think that’s a good point too because you know there’s I think there’s a good reason for why it’s set in Utah in this you know winter snowy landscape because no one else you know do you think like the actual government is sending out you know qualified people to go track these down in the snowy settings?
50:15
No, like no one wants to be going out there.
And even at the start of the film when Sheriff Gideon’s coming in and he’s been attacked by the the bandits and they steal his horse and he’s just kind of left out there frozen like almost in a comical way when they pick him up, like got an icicle hanging from his nose.
50:30
He’s.
Like so like red and like shaking and this.
Is kind of it’s kind of comical, but like, again, it kind of speaks to the of like, well, there was a reason why they utilize bounty hunters because like, you know, only the the people that would truly need the money would be interested in going out into these freezing deplorable conditions and bringing these people back in.
50:54
And again, like the expectation was we said dead, but we didn’t really, you know, we’d prefer alive.
Like it, it would be great if you’d bring them in alive.
And then these people are like, well, yeah, that that’s fine.
But if I want to, I could make the same amount of money if I just kill like 10 people, right?
51:10
Like.
I can’t remember.
I can’t remember what movie it is.
I’ll have to look it up after, but it’s like one of my favourite lines ever.
It’s like where I can bounce.
It’s like a western.
And he’s like, oh, I’ll go get him.
And like, you ain’t going to cheat the hangman, my town.
Like bring him in alive.
51:26
Like, you know, So yeah.
Which is true because I mean, wouldn’t that be more satisfying?
Like if your family was raped in village, wouldn’t you want the bounty hunter to drag them back?
And so you they could be taken to the local gallows so you can back fucking do it, right, Right.
51:44
Not to have them dragged back and be able to see it being carried out.
And I mean, that also speaks to this movie too.
And sort of like that whole idea of Poly cut just making up these these people who are outlaws is like the town doesn’t even care.
They’re just like what?
52:00
Like why are they killing all these people?
We don’t even we don’t even know what their bounty is for.
So it’s it it adds to that idea because at the end of the film, they really make it known like the townspeople are fed up with Polycot.
They’re they’re done with them.
They don’t want to.
You don’t have him keep using them for his advantages.
52:19
And so, you know, they try to also stand up to the bounty hunters to I’ll effect like it doesn’t work, but they do make it known that like these people are fed up with it too.
Oh, that’s from Jingle Unchained.
Oh, OK, yeah.
You know, I was just looking it up and I was like, yeah, no, no, that’s it.
52:37
That makes sense.
Shooting the hangman in my town.
And I mean, I think that leads us to the, the harrowing conclusion, the the ending where there’s this very prolonged drawn out sequence where Silencio is already very hurt.
52:52
You know, he’s been beaten.
He has his arm burned because like a guy throws it into like this open grill.
Which is brutal the whole the whole fight after like the brawl fight which takes him out bar fight it takes him out and kind of incapacitate someone gets them to.
53:11
Have sex.
It’s a rageous boner.
Well it’s funny because the whole time I was thinking was like what did it Like what does silence sound like when like bid coitus like?
Probably nothing.
Like just like when he got his arm burned and he was like silently screaming like, you know, like there’s no sound coming out.
53:31
Probably the same idea.
But it’s just funny to think of like, you know, like you done and she’s like looks down sees like you know, but now like but that whole bit is really brutal.
53:49
You know the one henchman grabs his right arm and puts his hand into the burning pile of coals and holds it there for like 2 minutes.
So after when he finally like flips and puts the guys head into the coals and throws them out the window, like for the rest, like the last like 15 minutes of the film, his hand is charred to shit.
54:09
And like they’re actually like, you know, keep showing that his hand is charred to shit and not just like wrap it up or whatever, you know, So the brutality is there because, you know, his bit is shooting off, you know, their thumbs.
He he’s going to have a hard time firing his gun from now on with, you know, 7th degree, you know, burns on his hand.
54:33
And and the film also does a lot, I mean, the film is actually pretty violent for considering for spaghetti westerns, which often used just like, you know, sound effects and and people falling over a lot of the time instead of squibs.
The film is pretty violent.
54:48
There’s a number of shots where people are, you know, violently bloodied.
And, you know, the film does make a lot of use of people shooting off thumbs because it’s kind of hard to cock your gun if you don’t have thumbs and.
As I say, then headshots too, a lot of the people are getting shot in the head and you see not, you’re not seeing like, you know, their heads, but you’re seeing like a bullet hole and a pretty good squib to go with it.
55:15
So like it it’s, you know, the film’s got this real good brutality to it.
They really, you know, and is especially visceral for this time because I thought the Wild Bunch comes, I think a year later.
So and you know, not only that, it’s, you know, it’s very dour leading up to this, this conclusion.
55:35
I mean, the whole film is really kind of like a downer.
It’s very is very little comedy to it.
It’s kind of, you know, sometimes spaghetti westerns, they would incorporate a little bit of comedy.
This one really has not much at all.
Like you, you get a maybe a little bit across Kinski joking, but Even so, the jokes are kind of like psychopath, you know, it’s not really something that you’re meant to take like as very funny.
55:58
And it leads up to this very harrowing conclusion where, like I said, it’s very, kind of very drawn out silences.
You know, he’s hurt.
He’s walking to the saloon where Klaus Kinski has every one of the the outlaw bandits that have bounties on them basically chained up inside.
56:20
And, you know, silence is last thing that he wants to do is try to save these people.
So he’s walking over to Klaus Kinski.
And you know, it’s kind of the idea of in a spaghetti western where the stranger, you know, he’s been beaten, but the war is not over and he’s going to go and you know, the final showdown where he wins.
56:39
And in this case he loses.
He loses big time.
Like it’s, it’s like a sort of like a a moment where you’re almost supposed to feel like how pathetic and, and weak he actually ends up becoming in that sense.
And it’s done on purpose.
56:55
Like it’s not like, oh wow, he’s such a pathetic character, but it’s it’s done in a way where it’s like he just really doesn’t, he can’t do anything.
And so his final act is just really even just sacrificing himself in an attempt to try to do it.
And it’s.
57:10
And we know I was saying and and it comes to no surprise that like, what happens, like, he gets, you know, the one guy fires and shoots him in his other hand, his left hand, because like earlier in the film when Loco is rallying up the posse, he tells him like, oh, he’s the one that killed your brother.
57:29
So the guy that ends up shooting him, you know, leaving it easy for Loco to finish him, you know, you could see that, Like they show them like looking through the window constantly, you know, to show that like, hey, it ain’t going to be a clean fight even with him, you know?
57:45
Yes.
Being beaten him down so.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it’s it’s it’s it’s really great.
It’s a moment that again, like you’re supposed to feel sort of pathetic and weak.
And at the end, you know, after Klaus Kinski actually ends up killing silence and then and then also, you know, his his new girlfriend Pauline, he ends that they just murder all of the outlaws just brutally.
58:16
They don’t just shoot it like each one dead, like they unload like a whole, you know, they they mag dump into a like, you know, Saint Valentine’s Day massacre and.
Yeah, yeah, it’s it is a massacre.
And they even, I mean, they draw attention to it in the the final like roll out description of the events, which I couldn’t really verify like that there was a Snow Hill.
58:38
And what they were saying is like actually factually accurate.
But like, I think the whole idea behind it is really sound.
I’m not sure that we needed the roll out ending there.
Like I think it’s pretty clear at the end after Klaus Kinski says something like says something about like it being like, oh, it’s all legal on the, you know, on the up.
59:03
And I was like, it’s all it’s it was all legal.
And then, you know, kind of ending it right there, I think is a great little close out moment where you don’t really need to explain the whole idea of like the bounty hunting was kind of bad, you know.
But at the same time, I I think it’s a really effective ending.
59:19
It’s not something that you often get from a spaghetti western where you have, you know, that that titular hero being completely, I guess, for lack of a better word or pun, silenced in this case.
59:36
And I think too, this whole idea of vengeance kind of plays a part in the great Silence, because a lot of spaghetti westerns are predicated on this idea of vengeance.
Like something happened to them in their prior part of their life.
And they their entire rest of their life is devoted to the vengeance that they so want from the, you know, in the justice that they want.
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And the a lot of the film’s main ideas play out because of the revenge.
Like silence sets out revenge on bounty hunters because, you know, his family’s murder and his, his own throat being cut.
1:00:17
And then you’ve got, you know, Polly cut, whose thumbs were blown off.
So now he’s wants vengeance.
And then, you know, it’s it’s a it’s a cycle of vengeance that never really works.
And that and just keeps repeating, which I think again, like that’s that’s spaghetti western to a tee.
1:00:39
But at the same time, I think it’s nice in this movie.
I think it’s done very well and it really goes along with, like I said, that very dour downbeat feeling that you have throughout the whole movie.
Then I think the cold pervading that sense of snow is really great because it has some really excellent cinematography of, you know, exterior shots help, you know, sort of like helicopter shots of just people riding through the snow and you can just go imagine like, wow, that probably is cold, you know, living out in that wilderness, probably cold.
1:01:13
I don’t know.
I, I love it.
I think it I think it works really well.
I don’t.
I don’t really have many criticism of the film, except for me maybe slightly extended, a little too long, you know, maybe a couple of edits to some of the longer scenes that kind of play out obviously for tension, but maybe a little bit too extended.
1:01:33
But other than that, I don’t really have very many criticisms of the movie per SE.
I don’t know about you.
No, I don’t really either.
The only, like, real criticism I would have, and it’s nothing against it because it’s just what it is, is like, it’s a film that’s like, is so good.
1:01:55
I wish it was like actually shot in real audio and not dumped over because, like, you know, managing like, you know, being up on those Tyrell mountains and that cold and, like being able to hear like people like, you know, yeah, like, you know, you know, really make that cold feel better.
1:02:16
I mean, that’s just Italian filmmaking in a nutshell because of, you know, them hiring 20 different countries to act.
So yeah, that’s like the only thing like that.
And I would I would say that that’s about it.
1:02:33
Then.
Then.
Then Klaus Kinski’s bowl cut haircut and I.
Think, I think any of Marie Cone’s soundtracks used a pretty good effect as well.
You didn’t really talk about too much, but yeah.
1:02:48
It’s it’s not like doesn’t over say it’s welcome like it’s.
It’s not, yeah.
It’s not like the same theme is like every single scene like which can.
Happen like 2 like like like 2 mules from sister Sarah, just like you know, like so so that’s nice.
1:03:12
Yeah.
I won’t say one of his, it’s not one of his more memorable scores, but it does definitely.
Yeah, I think it’s pretty good regardless.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, so let’s give The Great Silence a rating.
1:03:28
So on a scale of zero to 10 fortuitous snow poop scenes, which this film has a nice little, I love the Italian dub.
It sounds like he says like gotta make a caca.
1:03:43
It’s like, yeah, yeah, you know, it’s like a sort of like a caca, I hear.
And and the the the English translation is hold on, I’ve got to take a dump.
It’s great.
I was and I was I was kind of sitting there thinking like, is this really the translation?
But he’s goofy, a poopy, a spooky.
1:04:03
How can I get that guy?
I love it, though.
I love the whole and I love that he like goes through this whole like it’s actually kind of a, he makes it really, you know, he’s really acting.
Here.
Does he look like he’s taking a nice dump?
Did he have that Winchester up his ass?
I don’t know that was.
1:04:19
The where?
Did he get it like Winchester is like in the snow?
Like he knew it was there, but you’re like, how?
And is he pulling?
Yeah, because like, again, the the poop scene is kind of extended where you see him like kind of bending over and like he’s the the sheriff’s like, come on, come on, let’s hurry it up.
1:04:36
And you see him, he’s still like kind of straining, but it’s like, is he like extracting a gun from his ass?
Like what’s going on here?
And then?
Now for this, if this was 70s Italian film, we’d actually see the shit come out of the asshole.
Nice snow poop.
I’ve never had one myself, but it makes me wonder.
1:04:54
Well.
You, you can do that.
Yeah, I’m going to have.
To go out, go out in the.
Woods Snow.
Shoes and try it.
Bring it, Bring the local paper with you.
That’s.
Right.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
I’m having a nice relaxing snow poop.
Yeah, I can imagine it probably would be kind of relaxing just out in the snow by yourself, just like a nice little steaming snow poop.
1:05:17
See, like the rabbit run by me again.
I did that, Yeah, yeah.
Exactly, exactly.
It’s nice, the animal, you know, the harkening back to your little animal instincts to poop outside.
Yeah.
What would you give the Great Silence?
Give it in the 8 1/2 out of 10 like the film a lot.
1:05:34
It’s very good.
I’m up.
We’re not just suckers for spaghetti westerns on this film or westerns in general.
I also particularly love Matches because I also love Red Dead Redemption 2 till the end of time.
I’m a big fan of the the dying West theme and to wrap it up in like a snowy hellscape makes it just a like setting wise.
1:06:03
Brilliant.
Love it.
I love I love that idea and concept.
It’s to me is just like everlasting and always works well.
It’s a lot of excuse me, you’ve got a lot of good gore, a lot of good action for the small, small bits that it does like you definitely get your money’s worth of the story.
1:06:26
Again, really good.
It’s got like some good themes on there.
Excuse me, God fucking has reflux right now.
But it’s got like good themes on like, you know, state power, state violence laws, how they affect and aren’t good.
1:06:49
Is it like Wikipedia says, like an allegory?
I don’t know.
I wouldn’t go that far on the allegory.
I think it’s definitely got political motifs and themes like an allegory for anything.
It might be stretching it, but it is, you know, you know, a well-rounded, well thought out film.
1:07:10
It’s engaging.
It’s going to keep you.
If you like Westerns, you’re going to love this film.
It’s got everything you watched in the film.
Scott, Daniel Morricone score, like you said, 8 1/2, five time.
1:07:26
Pleasant.
Very pleasantly surprised.
Liked it a lot.
Wish I had seen it years before.
So yeah.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would going to give this in a half 510 as well.
I think it’s a really, really great movie.
Does an awesome job of setting up the idea of what you would expect from a spaghetti western, and then it’s kind of circumventing that and giving you something you might not be expecting, especially that, you know, feel bad ending that it gives you.
1:07:52
There are a couple of alternate endings, but I think this is really the the one that makes the most sense and really has the impact that the film is looking to achieve by showcasing this as being a a huge problem at that time.
1:08:07
And and you know, it’s very preciate, even to this day of assigning scapegoats and then you don’t finding blame in them and then, you know, persecuting them for no reason and, you know, for your own monetary interest.
It’s should we say, happening right now.
1:08:23
Fuck ice.
And it’s it’s very much the same idea as we haven’t really come any further from this.
And so I think like even at the time, like you said, meant as like a specific allegory, maybe not, but as a, you know, thematic spaghetti western that is meant to pose these ideas of like, you know, who are really the bad guys when we give them legal authority to do such a thing, I think works really well.
1:08:49
And you know, again, I love the winter aesthetic to it, which is not that common for spaghetti westerns.
I love this.
The whole villain element to it that is, you know, the film kind of follows the villain to some extent to to give you a really like close up and personal view of him.
1:09:06
And yeah, it’s just a it’s a great film all around.
So definitely recommend watching, especially if you’re fan of spaghetti westerns who you’re kind of sick of the same like, you know, Django alternatives that you get a lot of the time.
I think this is a really good one to kind of bolster your enthusiasm for the the subgenre again.
1:09:23
So 8 1/2 out of 10 for me.
Which again, like as you were saying with like the whole like, you know, fuck ice name and base, you know, the law not always being equal.
1:09:39
Again, it’s history that judges these things to the like, remember the people who like, dumped out the tea at the Pasta and Tea Party?
We’re committing a crime.
1:09:55
Like, you know, you just like, oh, they just dumped tea.
It’s almost $2,000,000.
Worth of tea they dumped out.
That’s a lot of tea, you know, same thing with like, you know, civil rights like well, for Rosa Parks just didn’t fucking, you know, sit in the wrong spot.
You know, I mean, obviously there was, you know, it was planned out boycott and whatever.
1:10:14
But still the point is, just because something a law is a law doesn’t mean.
It’s more it’s a good law.
Yeah.
And, and that’s funny too, just thinking about the the tea.
Did they waste a lot of tea or did they make a lot of tea?
1:10:31
They dumped tea in water.
So I bet you it was pretty fine tasting water.
Salt.
Salty water.
They did they, you know, add a little little lemon to it.
Got some iced tea there.
1:10:46
It’s great.
You know.
All right, I think for next time I I think we wanted to try to check out if possible, we want to try to check out Yeah, the new.
Next week, next week, we’re doing the new Sam.
Raimi yeah, the new Sam Raimi film that’s that’s pending if it comes to theaters around us, but I assume it will.
1:11:06
I think it’s getting.
Isn’t it already?
Al yeah, I think it’s no, I think it comes out this week, it comes out the 30th.
So I believe that we we should be getting it so.
It’ll be next week.
Yeah, it’ll be next week.
We’ll we’ll be able to go and go and see it.
So that’s the plan to see the new Sam Raimi movie.
1:11:23
Send help and then.
Well, let me put it to you this way, if it’s not local and I have to drive to Albany, I will.
You can watch you pirate it from home.
I probably won’t be able to that’s yeah, they they unless I get a Cam RIP or something, but yeah, and I think so that’s.
1:11:40
I’ll, I’ll, I will FaceTime it.
There you go.
Yes you can.
Go FaceTime.
FaceTime the movie while I sit back.
Well, just be listen, the film’s getting rave review, so, yeah, So that I don’t know why I just.
I just see you like Johnstown’s going to have, they have an early showing on Thursday and that yes, they will have it.
1:12:00
So, so we’re we’re good to go see it.
So we’ll we’ll be able to do that.
And so that’s the plan.
Send help for next time.
And then also, you know, we were coming up on a lot of different things.
We’re obviously for February going to do a Blaxploitation movie for, you know, Black History Month.
1:12:18
We’ll be doing Scream 7 as well whenever, when that releases.
I know that’s in February at some point.
I can’t remember exactly when that’s releasing, but we have to do it, of course.
It’s just kind of mandatory.
1:12:35
It’s at the end of the month of February 27th, but kind of mandatory.
Will it be any good because Jenna Orte quit?
Yeah, who knows?
I really don’t.
Which I don’t blame her.
Kevin Williamson being on it, you know, a plus.
I don’t know.
1:12:50
We’ll see.
Well, the new poll as we were talking about, because we were making the poster that they have out for it, the poster that they released like after we talked about last episode.
Oh yeah, looks pretty promising.
Yeah, yeah, it’s, it’s it’s, it’s better.
It’s better than the floating face one that is kind of all the rage with flasher type films.
1:13:12
So so yeah, well, we’ve got a few things planned we’ll definitely get to, but the the plan for next week is send help.
So all right then we’re going to do a live episode from Hooters with with JD bands for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, where we will have wings that aren’t good.
1:13:33
And and remember the Titans on.
Yeah, I feel so bad because all I could ever think about when I hear fucking.
1:13:50
That’s a good song too.
I anytime I hear James Taylor’s Fire in the Rain all I can think about is that kid crash this fucking.
Camaro Yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks for listening.
To us, why not?
Why not?
Why not Little Giants?
Yeah, yeah, that too, you know, well, you know with the.
1:14:06
Bills left the coming up.
You know what we need to do.
The World Cup?
Yeah, we need to do boycott.
Well, they yes, we probably should, but no, not not boycott, but a a a popular soccer film.
1:14:22
What what do you think I’m talking about big green?
Yes, exactly.
We need to do the big green at some point here.
I have seen the Big Green a billion times.
I used to watch that movie all the time.
It was a good we had.
It it’s been a really long time.
Well, I was no same here, but like I used we used to watch it like it.
1:14:41
My somebody taped it because it was on.
We had a tape film that had that little Giants and another movie on it, you know?
It’s going to launch.
You’re going to see Steve Gutenberg.
Gutenberg.
Yeah, that’d be great.
1:14:59
You know I was thinking too when I was at Walmart the other day, what would be like a fun stupid thing to do is you know how they had the big pile of sad movies like the $5 shitty DV DS?
Like if we just made that a series like. $5 DVD thing.
1:15:16
Just like, go grab her.
Yeah.
You don’t even look.
You just grab one and walk away.
Like, oh, we’re doing The Outsiders this week on this, like 247 P Yeah, it’d be fun.
I think that’d be.
A fun little thing where you just.
1:15:31
Yeah, you just do that.
Yeah, it’d be fun.
All right, Well, thanks for listening to our episode on the Great Silence.
Hope you enjoyed.
Hope you snagged a copy.
If you did, you know, from, from the vinegar Syndrome and film movements.
If you didn’t, you’re looking at like $200 right now unless they start to release another standard edition.
1:15:48
So crazy but.
Just play Red Dead Redemption 2 and you’ll get the idea.
There you go.
Which apparently I didn’t realize somebody posted on a red thread when I was looking up like this movie’s influence on Red Deck John Marston’s outfit.
When you find him like after getting involved by the wolves in like the second mission of the game, apparently he looks like silence.
1:16:12
I didn’t realize that, but yeah, I have to go.
Back.
That’s pretty cool.
Yeah.
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1:16:47
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